How does one deal with an ADD spouse who does not show you any empathy. Thus, for example, when I tell him that I am developing a migraine, he does not respond because he is too busy checking his phone. Or I text him that I am not feeling well or had a bad day and he ignores it? I feel like he doesn't care and when I call him on it, he blames it on being busy or having ADD. I cannot stand not getting any emotional support from my husband.
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- lack of empathy by: debbie7730 9 years 8 months ago
- Do you find no matter what you do, it's wrong? by: Anonymous (not verified) 9 years 8 months ago
I am so tired of trying to guess what I should do around H. Like Saturday he was working in the garage, so I felt like I had to do something too or he'd be all uppity that he's actually fixing things while I do nothing. So I mowed the yard. Luckily he was too busy to correct me on the way I was doing it. Then I was done and he was still working in the garage. I felt like I needed to go around and tidy up stuff in there. He didn't say anything but I felt like I was in the way. I asked if he needed my help with anything and he said no so I went inside. I still felt like I needed to look busy, even though I didn't feel well. Yesterday he was building shelves so I went and puttered in the yard. Then I helped him cut some boards, which was a disaster (see previous post!). I puttered around again and tried sweeping up sawdust but there was stuff in the way so I swept around it because if I moved something I'm sure it would be wrong or he'd think I'd just break it if I touched it. When he gets so focused on stuff, he doesn't talk and it always makes me feel like he's mad at me.
Just like when we go to the race track. I hate those weekends. He always says he wants me there but I can't load or unload the trailer correctly and once again he doesn't tell me what I should do, just focuses on getting it done. So I don't know if I should help or not. If I help, I get yelled at that I'm just making it more difficult for him. If I sit there not doing a damn thing but sitting in a chair watching him haul everything out (even though he tells me to just sit there and relax!),he gets upset and I get a very irritated "Um..a little help here please?!" Oh NOW I'm supposed to help? Was there a slight cue there that you gave me that NOW was a good time to help? But I might do it wrong or make it more difficult or break something! He never tells me what he wants me to do and just assumes I think just like him and I should know. And forget about setting up the pop-up tent with him! I still can't get it right and I get berated for that. It was absolutely wonderful when he recruited me and his 15 year old daughter to help disassemble it on a windy day. Of course he doesn't really tell us what to do and it gets away from us and tumbles about 30 yards and is of course broken. There were dozens of his racing buddies nearby who could have done this for him instead of us, but no, he wanted both of us who had no clue what to do helping him. I look at everyone else there with their husband or wife and how they work so well as a team, but I just start freaking out about the whole weekend a week ahead of time. We used to leave the morning of the races which meant getting up at 5AM and out the door by 5:30. Those mornings he never said 10 words to me before we left and I certainly didn't ask him anything because he was grumpy. He just assumed I knew what to throw in the truck and then got an attitude if I forgot something.
- Of course I couldn't do it right! by: Anonymous (not verified) 9 years 8 months ago
H is building some shelves out in the garage. Oh I knew I was going to do a multitude of things wrong when he asked for help. I only had to hold a board level a few times while he drilled some screws in. Well as you can imagine, I certainly couldn't do that without him telling me I was either holding it to tight or not tight enough! Then came the big thing which he explicitly explained to me like I was 10 years old. I was going to have to hold the other end of the board as it came through the electric saw. I was going to have to hold it level with his end or it wouldn't go through. No sh*t! So he goes on one end of to saw and tells me "There's a button on the left". I look and see no button. He repeats "on the left" I keep looking and there's no button. Once again with emphasis he goes "ON THE LEFT!" I scream at him "This is the left and there's NO button!" He goes "My left!" Well why the f**k didn't you say that or "the other left" the first time rather than repeating "on the left" louder 3 times assuming I would get it! The he tells me to hit the button. I see something that looks like a button but it can't be pushed. He rolls his eyes at me as I'm trying to push the button and give me the "oh my god why can't you get this simple thing right" laugh. I then try lifting it up and then it goes. Well it's not a button, it's a lever! Then he just called me out again to help him hold the board. This time he goes off on me saying I need to hold the board up higher and not twist it because now the cut is all wonky. I'm not twisting the damn board! My god I pull the board and I should be pushing it, I move slow when I should be moving fast. It doesn't matter it's going to be wrong!!Why in the hell does he even ask me to help him when both he and I know I'm not going to do it "right"? I think he assumes that it's such an easy task there's no way I can screw it up. Of course I end up feeling like a total idiot every time.
I am so tired of being yelled at for the most minor of things! I know damn well if anyone else was helping him he would have said "I mean my left, sorry" in a nice tone. Why does he bully me like that?! And he wonders why his co workers and most people in general don't like him!
- ADHD partner blames me always by: coco8712 9 years 8 months ago
Hello my boyfriend A recently broke up with me and i was with him for 2 years we had a normal happy fun loving relationship when he was happy until he got in a mood,mad,stressed,piss,frustrated then it all went out the window. He constantly reminds me of my past all my wrong doings but this was before him . in the beginning i made mistakes but apologized and never repeated them again straightened up my act did a 180 :) .mr A holds everything over my head if i lied, if i hurt him, if i disappointed him, and he has cheated on me 2x , belittled me, cursed at me in front of his 13 year old boy who is thee best boy ever, he throws shade at me all the time i never ever bring up his past, or hold things above his head i keep on moving forward and forgive no ones perfect.he says its ADHD he cant control his mind and thoughts he overthinks, i dont care what he did before me and even forgave him during our relationship when he cheated yet he is so hard on me . When he 1st mentioned he had ADHD i thought no problem its okay it means hell be hyper and active no biggy heck no oh my goodness it means exactly what he told me very hard, he doesnt medicate him self and i dont know if he is very knowledgeable on his own illness. i walk on egg shells around him , i cant get too loud or angry or express myself hell react and somehow blame me for over reacting or im crazy. i cant talk too much or we don't communicate about our issues hell get overwhelmed and cant be there to support me, i cook, i clean, i take good care of the household and myself and him ,his son too, he stresses out easily, he gets all depressed and throws a pity party for himself which then i have to talk him out of it, i cant ever mess up around him or he makes fun of me and call me names, says i cant hold a conversation , hes bored of me, he doesn't trust me but he doesn't trust anyone his own mother hes very skeptical were all out to get him sad. i still love him he has hurt me for no reason at all it sucks so bad he speaks ill of me when im the only one who has tolerated him and been here for him but nope hes cold and only gives 1 chance so in the beginning he says i lied and it changed his whole view on me and made things different. this guy thinks hes perfect you cant call him out on anything he don't care he just says hes been mentally ill for 37 years why do i think i can change him? hes been married 1x and that was bad he did the same to her and hes been alone for 10years here i come to help and love him he disrespects me , doesn't take meds for his sickness. its frustrating as heck he writes me off like no remorse and believes im wrong i messed it up .it frustrates me because i think a normal person wouldn't do this or say this or have this outcome .... i get so mad very frustrated im alone , i am broken and disturbed by all his hurtful words he turned his back on me. he is a 37 year old man acting ungrateful. I haven't seen him in 3 weeks he broke up with me randomly on valentines day ... we went to dinner me,him,the son i knew don't get excited he is not that guy its ADHD its going to end bad prepare myself i did i spoke up, threw some things out there called him out but still he came back with oh you lied 1x blah blah... hes right i am wrong, im evil i am a trader according to him, no sense in going back and forth so i stop we talked nothing got solved or better hes a brick wall stone cold. he cursed at me called me names, and all over because i joked around i wasn't paying for the bill i was i said i would and im good for my word i paid it. he still was cursing at me and that is how i left sad huh ? i never dealt with this in my life it is very hard i was willing to marry him , still try to work things out with him for the millionth time. He has made me sleep on the floor he was mad at me, he straight out tells me things , i cant cough too loud or he gets annoyed, he ruins our outings he can flip in a minute over the way i speak or my tone or his son anything hell find ways to blame us its never him. it hurts my very soul i tried my best i read the bible to him ,pray over him,love and respect him, he spits on me everytime never fails . he only has apologized to me 3 or 5xs in 2 years. he has a temper he can be cool and happy funny nice sweet he is totally a lovey dovey i like it when hes like that but when that switch flips its hard he dont call/text for 3-5 days punishment . when we do make up he dont talk about it. i love him and dam this ADHD im still praying for him but i dont want to be disrespected like this anymore, im alone i have to put him and his needs before mine, i like to help him make him smile but what about me ? im tired emotionally,mentally he dont change and i cant see why im bothering anymore
- Ex Partner with Narcissistic Traits by: Catlady79 9 years 8 months ago
Hello All.
I am a woman with ADHD, mild Aspergers and mild learning difficulties (in certain areas) and I recently got out of a relationship with a person who also has Aspergers and ADHD.
I left the relationship because it was unhealthy, toxic and bordering on abusive, in fact it was abusive as far as my family, some friends and doctors are concerned, he would yell at me when things didn't go his way, when things went wrong and when he was out of cigarettes, he would occasionally hit me for the same kind of reasons, he would accuse me of nagging and tell me to shut up when I asked about him paying his share of the bills yet he would go out and create debt after debt, his friends for the most part treated me as if I didn't exist or they were rude or plain nasty depending on the individual, he had poor personal hygiene and incontinence which he didn't bother address yet expected me to be intimate with him and complained that I wouldn't share the same bed as him (I wasn't for the most part due to the smell and what not) and when I mentioned his hygiene I would get told to shut up or f*ck off etc...the list goes on and on but I don't want to keep going, it's just too depressing.
Before I met him I was planning to move interstate to continue studies in the animal care field, I was happy and looking forward to this life I was going to set up for myself but I met him, made friends with him and gave him a chance only to find out it was to my detriment, I thought because I had been a relationship with an NT who was also abusive that this guy was a safe person because he was like me but I was sadly mistaken...very sadly mistaken. I had friends and a future and now I don't have either at this point, I am living in a homeless shelter for women while my beloved cat is with my mother until I find permanent housing.
I had two good jobs while I was with him but it was impossible to get ahead financially because he didn't want to work, he actually complained that I earned too much money because he was losing money from his social security benefits...
I have joined a group for people who have endured narcissistic abuse and my goodness every story I've read is almost identical in some way to my last relationship, there is always something in common and it's scary....really scary because there seems to be so many of these types out there and I don't want to run into another one again.
I don't know who I am anymore but I know one thing for sure I'm not the same person I was before May 2011 and some days I feel like I'm going mad....
Lost.
- Is this an ADHD trait or just a general (unpleasant!) character trait? by: GailT 9 years 8 months ago
Is 'clamming up' during stressful or difficult conversations linked with ADHD or is that just an individual character trait?
For a long, long time our 'conversations' have consisted of me talking and him supposedly listening. Even serious conversations about our ill daughter evokes the same response. Total silence. He will get off his chair and walk round the room or stretch or do something else physical but there is no verbal response.
He emotionally detached from me a few months ago and is only living in the same house due to financial restrictions so I am at a loss to know if his response is due to his unwillingness to talk to me personally (in which case I would have no patience for someone who can't be civil or adult given the seriousness of the subject matter) or if it's a 'shut down' because of his ADHD. If that was the case then I'd have more patience with him.
Asking him directly offers no help. He just looks out of the window and wont engage.
Does anyone have any insight as to whether this may be ADHD related or not?
He's in denial about his ADHD and wont see anyone to get tested so it's not like I can ask a therapist or Doctor who knows him.
- Lack of Commitment by: jrug2 9 years 8 months ago
My partner and I have been together for the past 5 years. We are not married but have made steps towards marriage, planning a family, and recently bought a home together. Our lives have countless personal and financial ties that make our relationships possible end very hard to sort out. I am not interested in an end to the relationship because I love my partner despite the personal labeling of "I'm selfish." My partner will put friends and spur of the moment activities before family functions or personal plans. If a friend or coworker calls for a beer- my partner is out the door in a split second. Recently my partner had knee surgery that made independence hard. I was the sole caretaker, chauffeur, and my life revolved around their schedule. After 2 months of care- my partner could again drive and this is where our issues started.
My partner frequently goes out and stays out, despite promising there is no cheating. (They truly are about the bar scene and shooting sh#$ with friends) They no longer want to start a family or a marriage commitment, even though our relationship began with both of these ideas as key. We recently bought a house with a spare bedroom to start the family and now my partner is afraid and has adamantly stated they had a change of heart. I'm heart broken because all of our plans have been shot down and I'm financially in bed with this person- who I thought I'd spend my life.
My partner doesn't want the relationship to end- they simply want it to stay how it is with no marriage or children. This was never our plan. My partner has become down right disrespectful, angry/yelling over me, and determined to brush it under the rug. They have redoubled their efforts to keep busy simply so we never have the conversation on what the heck is going on.
Communication and trust are at all time lows. I love my partner but don't know if this is theirr true opinion or work stressors (ppl laid off) and change has triggered a mental break down. Do I wait it out? How do I know if this can be fixed if my partner won't communicate?
- grief ---relief by: Sade88 9 years 8 months ago
I am tired of dealing with it all. The emotional infidelity, the messiness, the financial mess. All of it. And because of our financial situation, I am stuck. I go back and forth- not even sure if I love this man. And when I think I do love him, something happens and I get slapped in the face (emotionally). If somehow we end up apart, there will be grief over the loss. 18 years of marriage. The person I thought I would be with for the rest of my life, gone. Grief for my youngest son who would be devastated if his parents were no longer together. But then there would be relief. No more wondering what he is doing and who he is seeing. No more cleaning up his mess. No more watching him spend (that we don't have to spend) on s*** he doesn't need. Oh the glory of a clean house. And being able to just do whatever I want, when I want.
Something has to give, soon. I can't keep living like this.
- things that helped by: Emily1997 9 years 8 months ago
We learned husband has diagnosed ADD 17 years in, I seem ok. By then we were on our #4 round of counseling and I shared this elsewhere, we are now on our 5th.. I want to share tools we used to cope long before we knew of it. I had been working part time as an organizer before we married, this was a huge help. Find help if you can't do it. Also previous to marriage I had been his boss at full time job so I knew him in a different area of our lives. He went on to a better job and we married a couple years later. He was often angry at me for these gentle suggestions but I would negotiate to try it 3x and if it doesn't work we move on. I had to remind him to try. I did not condemn fails and looked for other ideas. I felt for sure I'd married the absent minded professor and needed to put systems in place for when we get older. I needed things to be second nature in case life became more complicated and it has. Be comfortable with the negotiation, some worked, some didn't. Incremental progress is key. I introduced things slowly to promote success in the business part of our lives. Note that we do not have children so if you have children you will need to teach them these boundaries to get the rewards.
Praise and recognition: Early on I noticed my husband would beat himself up over things he'd forgotten even though he is high functioning with a very good job. All his focus goes to that job. I would tell him I appreciate it. I tell him thank you as often as I could and still be sincere. I realized that we all want to be someone's hero.
Reduce stress/distractions: Crowds, noise, small children bother him. We carry foam ear plugs with us and he now has earphones w/ calming music so he can tune out that external stimuli. Background music such as things by Sonic Aid both to calm and for focus. We also use an earplug at the dentist, doctors, tax person-situations wh/ have stress. A sleep machine from Bed,Bath & Beyond to help with sleep issues, same music each night to train brain. Homeopathic such as Hylands or Melatonin to help w/ sleep. He takes guitar lessons online (a Groupon) so as to tune out, focus on something and not have a time deadline (causes stress). Wireless headphones for the tv. 30 minute warnings for departures, 5 minutes out the door. The person needs a time to calm their mind. He uses music or kitten videos and I use music or mediation. I noticed he was calmer when he joined me for yoga, like within a week he was calmer. He didn't like the class (deadline) so we got him a video. Sometimes he just lies there on the mat and listens to the music...still helps. We buy cards bulk and set up 1 week alarm to reduce the stress of sending a card. This includes cards to me but it is up to him to send them (see errands note). Naps of even 30 minutes are good. Smells distract so less scents in the house, no perfume. Ex. a match in the bathroom vs. an air freshener We found vanilla to be a calming smell for him.
Simplify life: auto pay bills, live in a small space, rent until you get a grip on things, don't introduce kids, plants or pets until you are functioning as a team. Even things such as only 5 pairs of pants vs. 10 is better, more choices is overwhelming in every area of the environment. A job w/ a uniform helps. Create standard passwords (he always changes as forgot them). Created separate emails to avoid his signing up for stuff. get any bills via email or online billing so the paper is not lost.
Structure: We have a morning routine and evening routine. If we don't have this routine 30 minutes will take 3 hours. AM (sans PC or phone-make breakfast, put away dishes, wash face, brush teeth, hair goop, get out of jammies) PM (stop technology 1 hr prior, shower, brush, jammies, good deeds of the day, not good deeds mention to deal in the morning-release that guilt before bed) We agree before bed the time of the morning alarm. I set a back up.
Organization:
We went through lots of devices but eventually found that a form of electronic calendar works good & syncs to my PC and a to-do list he can cross things off. Every morning after breakfast we go over what will be the agenda for that day and he writes numbers as to priority and letters for the order to complete. Leave room for notes/follow up. As long as he has done something I tell him I appreciate it. If he is having a rough day I check in and offer help to get him on track again.
I put labels on lots of things in the house. This not only help him find things (less stress) but also helped him put things away. I set up the paper filing system, we reviewed it and emailed him a hint sheet. I have scanned copies of all legal documents, licenses, passports and this has saved us many times.
I tried to figure out what house chore he enjoys. Turns out grocery shopping because he loves shopping and cooking. We must have a list and I must remind him not to buy anything other than the list. About 1x month I go with him and it takes 2 hours bec. we are not sticking to the list. When we run out of something it must go on the list or he will have to go to the store whenever something pops into his head. We have to agree that meal prep will only take 30 minutes or it will take 2 hours and the kitchen will be destroyed. Once a week he cooks as therapy. We make steal cut oats which easily keep a week in the fridge, breakfast done, change up toppings. We make a soup of the week. This eliminates 2 meal prep times. I would be very uncomfortable with him going to Whole Foods on his own $$$$.
My pace is much higher than his, that alone causes stress. We have a free days or jammie day which he is on his own time frame. These are discussed after dinner....are we caught up on things enough for a jammie day? Just the act of getting married (keep it simple) and being married was stressful on a whole different level.
Laundry is an issue. He has the need to reorganize his dresser every time he has to put clothing away. This is overwhelming and then nothing is put away. I put a laundry basket in his closet. I put clean laundry in it so as to not wait for it to be put away. Any laundry that is on the floor or other non storage location also goes in there so I don't have to look at it. It took a few times but when he thought he had clean socks to get out of that basket and had nasties his dirty ones somehow made it to the dirty clothes basket.
We only run errands on certain days of the week. This frees his brain and mine about things such as what day to take care of dry cleaning or groceries. We try to set doctors appointments the same way. Anything I can do to encourage him to participate is good. We cannot buy things without getting rid of things because he is an impulse shopper. He has to be responsible for getting rid of the items...this curbed the shopping.
Money: I am in charge of bills/finances and I give him a briefing monthly so he is not excluded. We use Quicken but anything with visuals will help. We set a limit on the amount to spend without contacting the other. It isn't permission it is a discussion. I seldom say no but that one step eliminated a lot of impulse spending. We set up an account and ATM for him to use. We agreed on the amount that is put into that account. He does have back up cards but they are back up cards. For some this may seem controlling but realize he told me he was going to buy a bicycle and called me at 2am to discuss how he wanted to buy a boat. I've had to sell two vehicles bought on impulse. It isn't control it is to delay the impulsive spending and it works much better to have an agreement up front. We put all paperwork into one place. I'm normally the one to process it but at least I'm not looking for a lost receipt for insurance or taxes. I scan/toss everything. Just for piece of mind establish credit in both names. We have joint cards with him as primary and one w/ me as primary.
Household chores: He has the option to say no but I have the obligation to ask not expect. I keep it to things that can be done in the now. "Would you change that light bulb? I"m too short." "Who is going to make dinner?" "Who is going to do the dishes?"
Addictive behavior: I'd noticed that drinking every day was too easy, socially too many. Internet could suck up hours of time. With smart phones and FaceBook those have become issues.
Exercise: It needs to happen every day, an hour is great for mood and confidence. Hanging out w/ friends at Crossfit for an hour every time is not. This has also become almost addictive.
We read a lot of books trying to help our relationship. Right away I thought he was passive aggressive. Sabotage, co dependency, healthy marriages... Then for years I dealt with anxiety and depression (still do). One thing I learned is that if he read them first he was the authority correcting me, if I read them he was angry. Conclusion was that knowledge must be shared maybe a chapter at a time so that perceptions can be discussed and it not be used as a weapon against me.
Don't get me wrong while we learned to get a grip on these things there are many more emotionally things we do not. Shortly after he was diagnosed I developed serious stress based health problems and that has been a defining moment for me. Two years of many medical tests and personal work led me back to the marriage, I must change my life. Please don't ever neglect your physical or mental health.
- How to tell him he has ADHD by: Tanya2244 9 years 8 months ago
My therapist has just (un-officially) diagnosed my husband as having ADHD. She recognized the signs because her husband has it.
How do I tell him about this diagnosis without hurting his feelings or making him feel like we were ganging up on him in my last therapy session?
I love him, but I think he needs to know why he does what he does so we can start working on dealing with the issues.