He says that I have changed... I know I have changed, but only because I do not trust a single word that comes out of his mouth!
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- Does anyone else get this? by: Hoffe frau 9 years 9 months ago
- Where does all the Guilt and Shame come from? by: overwhelmedwife 9 years 9 months ago Guilt and Shame seem to be the common denominators to much of issues and reactions. Where is it coming from? What is the genesis? I suspect that those with ADHD (either inattentive, impulsive or combo) have had a life-long history of having "normal" folks commenting and correcting them. I think from a young age they have had to listen to people say, "why did you do that"? or "what were you thinking" or "you need to pay attention" or "you broke that because you weren't careful," and so forth and so forth. Is that where it all started?
- How to cope when your spouse is on a rage? by: Anonymous (not verified) 9 years 9 months ago
H has been so good over the past few months. Never angry, always going to work. This Monday I came home and he was obviously upset about something as he was very terse with me. I knew something was wrong within 30 seconds of walking through the door just by the way he spoke to me. I'm 99.9% sure it's work. He didn't say anything to me about why he was upset that night. The next day he went to work and came home 2 hours later. I see he texted his manager that he didn't feel well and threw up twice. I hardly think so. I think he was frustrated with his coworkers. Tuesday he seemed okay but quiet. Last night I walk through the door and the first thing he says to me is "I have felt like crap all day. I've been nauseous and poopy and haven't eaten anything so that's why I'm grumpy". Um...no it's not. You are grumpy because you're pissed at work. I open the trash to throw something away and see a Burger King bag in there so obviously he ate. And he's drinking so he can't feel that bad.
He can't get along with a few of his coworkers and doesn't think anyone takes any disciplinary action on them when they aren't doing their job. I even saw on his phone that he had taken a picture of the guy he can't stand sitting at the computer surfing the web rather than working and sent that to his manager. Funny, because he was the guy doing that a few months ago and he gave every reason as to why it was okay for him to do that when his manager was angry at him! He has the option to leave in 2 weeks to go to 2nd shift in another area and he has been ecstatic about that but tells me he negotiated with them to stay where he is until October and then they will start up a 2nd shift there where he will be the lead. Why doesn't he just leave now? He's making himself and me miserable. If he's in a bad mood when I get home, I get quiet and act like I am in a bad mood too because if I'm in a good mood he will immediately kill that off.
When he is like this, I can't concentrate at work, eat, want to be around anyone because all I want to do is get home and see if he's back to normal. I have to attend a dinner function for work one night next week and he will probably go ape shit on me for staying out later than usual like he did a year ago when I went to the same thing. Then the following week there is a retirement party for our COO. I want to go to that but would rather make up some excuse than tell him I'm going. He'll get really upset with me being gone 2 nights in one week.
I am so tired of my life being dictated by his crappy moods! I'm almost tempted to cancel a brow wax and tint on Saturday because if I tell him I'm going, with the mood he's been in, he'll probably tell me how stupid that is!
- First time here am I being unreasonable ? Marriage will not last if he can't change please help! by: kinnz03 9 years 10 months ago I have been married for over 17 years we have three kids, he is the love of my life. When we were dating I noticed a pattern of lies, money issues, and rage issues (road rage ) . I must go back several years for this to make sense. My husband had had 7 (yes 7) failed busineses. For the first several years we lived with my parents, during that time he had an emotional affair with a woman for 2 years I begged for him to stop, tried to tell him how he was ruining our marriage. All night phone conversations , phone sex, lies with her contributed to my feelings. He lost his business because he would sleep all day. He told her he was leaving me and I guess once she realized he wasn't and told him to leave her alone it took a restraining order to make him go no contact this is after being promised ( I was ready to leave ) over and over again it was over then I would find out it wasn't. Fast forward to 3 years ago because of his poor decision making skills and goals that are never met for lack of self discipline we had a big talk and he agreed to see a doctor who diagnosed him with ADD. This would explain the lost keys, lack of direction, just a lack of caring, with meds he would get better ? Nope . ( now) He constantly lies to me and tells me he wants to avoid an argument. Online chats and friends with "women". Inappropriate flirting, I'd say something another promise no more and of course it happens over and over again. He got a membership to the gym and a new phone that I didn't know about for talking to a woman there, I only found out when I awoke to find him gone at 12 am and I called him he claimed to be at the coffee shop "thinking " which he and I used to do. I started getting suspicious when I found his phone. He fessed up and said he did meet her at the coffee shop and they went to a bar. We had ww3 and I drew up seperation papers. Begging pleading crying , he will never lie again, he will rebuild trust. Last shot he knew it ! Well he gets a female assistant to ride around with him and take notes last week I find her notes in his truck . When he started this business we discussed this because he has done this before behindy back. He promised to be open and honest and discuss things before they happen. Of course I was mad it took 2 hours for him to come clean, promised it wouldn't happen again and guess what ? Today I find out he's been picking her up still. His excuse : he's not doing anything sexual or immoral (I did not accuse him of anything sexual its the lies) and he cannot just tell her he doesn't need her because he feels bad. He says " why do you think I want to sleep with every female I talk to" I DONT ACCUSE HIM! I simply want to see him try to rebuild trust that he's broken over and over again and he cannot even begin before he starts another line of deception. But if I talk about leaving he flips out. I want security, honesty and trust. Is that too much ? My question is do you think his add plays a role in this or am I hearing what he thinks I want to hear for the moment because he's just a narcissistic personality????
- It's not me, right?? Should I stay or go? by: Jenna72 9 years 10 months ago
Hi! I'm new here, and while I have learned A LOT so far (the books have helped me to feel like I was able to decode a language I couldn't speak before), I am stuck in trying to decide what to do. I apologize in advance for the length of this post - believe it or not, it's the short version! Lol
Am engaged to, and living with, my ADHD partner. He's 55, I'm 47. We met 4 yrs ago, got involved 3 yrs ago, and have lived together for 1.5 yrs. Got engaged last fall. I found him exciting, energetic & very helpful around the house, fixing things, etc. I knew he was ADHD and started to educate him on it. I couldn't believe he had managed to get through his life without knowing he was ADHD. He was on worker's comp due to injury but he was so aggravated he couldn't work, I thought for sure he'd get a job as soon as he could. When I met him 3 years ago, he was in the process of ending a LTR of 20+ yrs. She was abusive, both physically & emotionally - very manipulative, and a meth addict & alcoholic. He gave her the house and she lost it within months due to her addiction. I offered up MY house to 2 of his 3 adult kids (the 3rd is older, married, and on her own), because I felt bad that the kids were stuck in such an awful situation at such a young age (23 and 19). He then got a dog (going against my plea to NOT get one). I love the dog, but I did not want one in my life. I had grown up with dogs and know the responsibility that comes with them, and I didn't want it. I had spent the last 20 yrs as a single parent working 2 jobs and going to school. Now that my son was grown, I wanted to FINALLY enjoy my life - travel, etc. Anyway, the level of chaos in my life went from 0 to 100 in no time. Within months, we found out the kids had used & manipulated us, and betrayed him by telling his ex information she felt she could use against him in the divorce. My own son (20) moved out bc he couldn't deal with the chaos. Both his kids were asked to leave, and I was outraged. Feeling like I had been blindsided and walked over. Why didn't he tell me his kids were like this? Prob bc I never would have let them live with us. The dog turned out to have a host of medical problems, costing me close to $5000 for surgery and meds and followup appts. Fast forward to the present, and it's still the same problems - he doesn't have a job, kids have bounced from house to house, can't keep a job or finish school, and continue to use and manipulate whoever comes in their path. After dealing with this drama for years, I finally set up some boundaries - and told him if he asked for either of his kids to live with me again, I would simply say No, and would ask him to leave as well. The level of disrespect from them is astounding! I am just now starting to realize the lack of respect I receive from him as well - I pay for EVERYTHING, including his entire family's cell phone bill, my mortgage & bills, etc. He was supposed to be giving me between $600 - $800/mo. I pay over $3000/ month. I rarely receive anything. For over a year, we fought constantly about how MY NEEDS were NEVER being met. My credit has been destroyed, there is no food in the house, and I have to count pennies to put gas in my car to get to work. I have numerous health problems of my own that were previously controlled but are now starting to come back because I haven't been able to afford the proper food, supplements, or medical care for myself as it's been ALL ABOUT HIM since he moved in. He apologizes constantly. It used to matter. Now I just feel he is scrambling bc he doesn't want me to ask him to leave.
I've worked REALLY hard to get what I have in life. To get an education, to get my own health problems figured out, to repair/maintain good credit, to get a great job, and own a house. I have "gone without" for years, and was looking forward to this time in my life when I could be free from the responsibility of having to raise my son, etc. Instead of traveling and doing new things, we sit at home and watch tv. He is addicted to marijuana, claims it helps his ADHD (and it does, but so do many other LEGAL drugs). After doing some research and realizing a LOT of his issues stem from his ADHD, he said he would get help as well as counseling to deal with the anger issues from a rotten, abusive childhood and over attachment issues he has to his daughter. He has yet to even look into it. I question if he is even capable of doing it. In fact, I am questioning EVERYTHING. I feel used, and manipulated. I am exhausted, and my work is suffering. It is ALWAYS about him & his problems. I do ALL the reading, the research, etc for any of his health conditions.
To my family & friends, the writing is on the wall. But for myself, I am having a hard time asking him to leave. He doesn't have the tools he needs to control his ADHD and have a decent life. He cannot save money to save his life. He does not have the capability to contemplate and plan for retirement. He couldn't create a resume because he couldn't remember where/when he has worked over his life, but I found that if he dictated it to me, he could. Is that manipulation or a learning disability associated with the ADHD? And why is it always ME that searches for the answers - it's like he doesn't care to learn about himself/fiz the problems that hold him back. i question if he even realizes it holds him back!.
Do I ask him to leave? I do love him, but I feel like I need much more in my life (primarily peace and quiet with no drama!!!!). Do I wait until he gets a job/gets ADHD help/coach/dr/meds or will this most likely never actually happen?
I'm so lost, hurt, depressed & confused! :-(
- Came home to an angry husband last night and everything I did upset him! by: Anonymous (not verified) 9 years 10 months ago
I am SO tired of these episodes. We haven't had one in about 2 months and he's been really good about controlling his anger. We had a great night the night before and he was pleasant in the morning before he left for work so obviously something or someone at work upset him. He acts all nonchalant when I get home like "Oh hey it's you". Yup it's me because it's only us here! Then I take a shower and get out and he proceeds to tell me how much the kittens are annoying him today by running around him while he's on the computer and trying to jump up on his lap. Well let's see...you are the one who wanted to keep all 5 kittens rather than give them away so you have NO right to complain! Of course he turns that around aon me all the time saying "Well you didn't want a dog so we got 5 kittens instead" like it's ALL my fault when I barely wanted one kitten! Then he goes out into the kitchen and says "So we actually have stuff to make tacos?" I said yes that I got some soft taco shells. He goes "You mean tortillas?" all snotty. Yeah same thing. He had to correct me because, as I said, nothing I was doing was right. Then the day before we were out and got home around 5PM. Well he had his car broken into on New Year's Eve and had a set of car keys stolen from it. Well rather than calling a locksmith to get the locks changed (because that requires having to look one up and call!) he parks in the driveway and has been wanting me to park right in front of the driveway to deter anyone from coming and taking off with his car and then every morning he has to move my car before he can leave. Brilliant right! SO much easier than calling a locksmith!. Because if anyone wanted to take his crappy 1995 Subaru that's rusting away, my truck in front of the driveway would deter them. Like they couldn't get in it and drive into the yard and drive away! We get home that night and he parks on the street but not in front of the driveway. I ask him why he isn't parking there and he goes 'Oh it's been 3 weeks, I think it's fine to stop parking there now". Okay. So I get home last night and park along the street just past the driveway. Well he looks out the window last night and without a word to me, grabs my car keys and goes out and backs the truck up about 5 feet so it's in front of the driveway. Comes in all huffy that he had to do that. You JUST said last night we didn't have to do that anymore! I bet if I had parked in front of the driveway he would have gone out there in a huff and moved it off of the driveway and tell me that he TOLD me we didn't have to do that anymore.
Well he spends 1 1/2 hours cooking dinner and playing his video game without a word to me. I go in the kitchen and ask how his day was and get 'How do you THINK it was? Same old sh**, different day!" I opened the fridge and he got upset because he needed to get in it. I threw something in the trash and he got upset because he was headed to throw something in it, I go look out the sliding glass door and he huffs up behind me and stares at me saying "Are you going out or just going to stand there because I need to get out there". Obviously no matter where I was I was going to piss him off because it was EXACTLY where he wanted to be. I go sit in the living room and watch tv. About 10 minutes alter he goes "Dinner is ready. Sorry to make you get off your butt and come and get it but I know how you like to eat. I'm not hungry and am going ot go play video games." Why in the hell did you spend all that time making dinner if you had no intention of eating? We had leftovers and I can feed myself without you having to cook. Then I guess I was supposed to feel bad that he spend ALL that time making ME food.
Sometimes it gets to the point where every benign thing pisses him off. I'll hear "Why can't you put your face wash in the medicine cabinet rather than leave it out?". "Why does that plant have to sit there? It's in the way." "Do you REALLY have to walk that loudly?" "Is it necessary fo you to swallow that loudly?" That didn't happen this time, but I have heard all of that before. He just gets so angry with anything I say or do (or don't say or do) that I have no idea how to be with him. If I speak, he blasts me and if I sit and say nothing he gives me a sarcastic "What's wrong with you?" I can't enjoy anything then because I am so worried about how he's going ot react to anything. I hate living like this when he has these episodes! Now all I can do is sit here at work wondering how he'll be when I get home tonight.
Just checked his clock in time via the web because something told me he either pulled the "I'm leaving for work but not going in" thing or he's coming home early. First off, he tells me last night he has to go in early--3AM. He resets his alarm again and again between 2 and 4. Gets up at 4:30 and is out the door in 5 minutes.I see he didn't clock in until 5:24, which is well past 5AM and way past the 3AM he was supposed to be there for OT. He clocked out at 7:34. Obviously he is pissed about work. This hasn't happened in 4 months and is now happening again. He WAS moving to 2nd shift in a different area in 2 weeks but says he negotiated a deal with his crew that they would start up a 2nd shift in October and he could lead that so he's sticking with this crew until then. He obviously hates his boss and one of his coworkers so I wish he would just move to this other crew and have a better work life.
- ADHD and bouts of depression by: dedelight4 9 years 10 months ago
I know that people with ADHD are prone to depression, but it's something I've never put "together" with my own husband's ADHD. But he DOES have depression, and sometimes absolutely nothing gets him out of it. I've started logging just WHEN he gets his rounds of depression. They seem to hit him about every 6 to 8 weeks, and it lasts about a week to 10 days. QUESTION: Is this a "usual" pattern for ADHD'ers? Do they have repetitive BOUTS of depression, or is there depression most of the time? He's on Concerta and I think he's also on an anti-depressant, but I don't think the anti-depressant is strong enough. The depression almost always has to do with money and/or him not feeling like he makes enough in salary. He's always been upset because he doesn't think his life has turned out "right". He has a PhD, (which is a great achievement) but, the jobs he's had are often bottom level jobs and/or way below what he is capable of doing. But, the jobs have been what HE chooses, with little to no allowable input from me. He also blames a lot of people in his life for not "helping him" get the right profession, or guiding him in the right direction, and/or choosing his profession FOR him. I asked him why he felt that someone ELSE had to do that instead of him sorting these things out himself with the help of guidance counselors, etc. He said...."That's a good question".....and that was it. But, I know it's a major source of depression for him.
- I'm a Confused, Frustrated & Fed-Up Non-ADHD Husband by: TITLESTPMR 9 years 10 months ago
So I've been reading a lot of these posts, many of which are Non-ADHD women with ADHD husbands. I am a Non-ADHD husband and am at my whit's end. I really don't even know where to begin or what to say here, other than the fact that I am confused, frustrated, tired, and just plain fed-up. My wife is a stay-at-home mom, and I work from a home office. Overall, I am frustrated with my wife's significant lack of homemaking skills which include general cleaning & organizing, decorating, planning, etc. The appearance and cleanliness of our home does not seem to matter to her in any way whatsoever. Yes, there is that one spare bedroom room in our home with boxes stacked on boxes of her belongings that she's promised time and time again to go through to get rid of things, which as of this very day of me writing this post, more bags have been dumped in. Yes, her closet is a mess and you can barely open the door. have very poor communication, with seemingly no progress whatsoever. I am extremely scared for our future and need to better understand her ADHD. We've been together almost 7 years and married for 2 1/2 years and have a wonderful 19 month old daughter.....Aaaaaand, my wife is about
- Can't rely on spouse by: overwhelmedwife 9 years 10 months ago The previous thread has become difficult to follow and comment on....so... My H never been reliable, but he gets even worse when he knows it will hurt me. For instance, if he's supposed to help us get ready for something that he's agreed to doing, then he will use that to get what he wants. "I've decided that I won't help with that (or go to that) unless you apologize for (something that I didn't do!)" It's gotten to the point that I refuse to give him these opportunities. I won't set up trips anymore (because he refused to go to one one time when he got mad at something and I refused to apologize for something that I didn't do). I visit my family alone, because I won't let him have the opportunity to black-mail with something in regards to that either.
- Hyperfocus Relapse? by: Strangebird 9 years 10 months ago
I finally managed to get my Husband to a counselor who recognizes ADD, the counselor actually did extensive research and is really understanding our situation, my Husband is scheduled with a Psychiatrist for meds. Nevertheless, that's as far as it went, and I lost hope. He wouldn't do anything beyond that, no discussions at home, kept avoiding having me involved in "his" counseling, and started to back off his belief that he even has ADD. After much thought, and reading a lot of the posts here, as well as my books and the books on Co-Dependency, I went to our last session (against his wishes) and laid out a 6 month plan to work through all of our financial issues, and separate everything, and work with the counselor to build an extraordinary friendship and learn to be extraordinary parents together. At the end of the 6 months, we'll take a pre-planned trip together as a family and come home to our new separate lives. He responded with anger and accused me of blaming him for everything, and I assured him there is no blame, and the discussions about who/what/how etc were over and the goal was only going forward now. He left angry, but quickly became very easy to live with.
Now, he's doing everything I ever wanted and being the HUSBAND I've wanted for the past few years! When we finally talked and I asked him if he agreed with the plan, he said he yes that it's the only option. Through the discussion he told me that he needs things, and all the things he told me he needs are the things I've been wanting for the past 3 years of therapy and fighting! Now I feel like he wants them, just not with me.
Now it seems the hyperfocus is back, but not with the intent to keep me, which is really hard. He's attentive, caring, loving, even affectionate. He's making the boys be respectful, asking about my day, being helpful without asking, and asking what I need or he can do to help out. I looked at him and told him how sad I am because I truly believe that if I met him today I'd fall madly in love with him all over again, and when I asked him the same he said, "yeah, probably". I was crushed, so I started thinking about it.
I met my husband when I moved here from 1,600 miles away. I left my friends, and everything I loved and wanted, to take care of my uncle and grandparents, all of whom are gone now. I adopted his life, friends, clubs, hobbies, everything. And although he's given most of these up over the years of me getting through law school, and us raising our kids, it's all waiting for him to return. I've been very careful to make sure that he never felt like my life eclipsed his, that he had the opportunity to have a life outside of our marriage and family. The result is, I have no family when he's gone, no clubs, friends, hobbies, and the job I have will have to go because I'll need to find a job with medical coverage. I'll have nothing and his entire life will be returned to what it was before the marriage. And I believe he's always romanticized that life before me.
That leaves me with the last stab to the heart, I've always felt like nobody needs me for anything but a paycheck. I'm the breadwinner, and I get home at 8-10 pm every night because I don't have a choice. Nobody really cares, and nobody ever really even knows where I am, which has always devastated me. Now nobody will even know IF I make it home, or care. He's just let me know unequivocally that he doesn't need me, and never did. His life is going to be better without me, he's actually anxious to get rid of me.
So now, I've got him in what appears to be hyperfocus mode, or is it him trying to reap the benefits of therapy? Am I giving up everything I wanted too soon in exchange for a clean house and "order out of chaos" only to have nothing but an empty house and absolutely nothing in my life at all? Where do I address these issues & how? Do I bring them up in counseling? I told him I was done, and now all I do is cry. I feel like asking to try again is just going to empower him to take control over me again and send my life spinning out of control with threats of divorce on a weekly basis, and constant manipulation, and emotional/mental abuse. Plus, my 11 year old is in counseling to deal with how the ADD has affected their relationship, do I have a right to back peddle when I'm seeing progress there?
Is he just so happy to get rid of me that he sees a light at the end of the tunnel and I'm interpreting it as love, hyperfocus, or the man of my dreams? I've rambled, I apologize.