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  • New User Keith by: krobbyzw 1 year 3 months ago

    Hello everyone!  I am married to a lady (Kim) who I now understand struggles with ADHD/OCD related challenges.

    She has only been able to hold jobs for about three months out of the last nine years. Her brother suggested I read the book "Scattered" by Gabor Mate which I did and I am now on Chapter 6 of the ADHD Effect on Marriage.

    Thank you very much for your book, Melissa, I feel you have been reading my mail :-) 

    I am looking for face to face ADHD support groups in the Rockford Illinois to Beloit Wisconsin area, but I understand that this website is a huge resource that I have barely scratched the surface of, so I am looking forward to doing that too.

    I have recently met a pastor at a John Eldridge Men's Camp who is a counselor and I am looking forward to counseling sessions for myself with him starting this Saturday and will see if Kim will join me.

    Many thanks again, Melissa for a promising resource!

     

    Best regards

    Keith

  • First time poster - non ADHD spouse - struggling by: Sask_girl 1 year 3 months ago

    My husband and I have been together 7 years;  it was second marriage for both of us and we blended families.    Yes the courtship was so attentive and we ended up joining households very early.   Just before Covid my husband was laid off from his retail management job.   He's also been through a major organ transplant and 3 joint replacements.    Given my job is an executive level,  we could afford to live on my salary and he was able to stay at home through Covid.   Subsequently we discussed that we should do our best to preserve his body and he'd stay retired.     He's struggled with purpose.    He worked high volume retail and coached a sport very competitively.    I thought retirement would be freeing for him but he's lost purpose.

    Well the lack of purpose he's depressed and jumps from hyper-focus to hyper-focus.   I don't trust him with money.    He went through a hobby collectible hyper focus that spent thousands of dollars.   I ask for minimal money for the household but then have limited pocket money, while he has a couple hundred to just blow weekly.    The usual chores dysfunction - just easier to do it myself.

    We are seeing therapists separately and together.    He now identifies his issues but we are making no progress.    I find if I try and express my needs I'm "controlling" and he double downs on his position.

    I'm working my way through the book but I feel so alone in my marriage.   He thinks I'm insecure by feeling ignored, but well sounds like I react like the non-ADHD spouse.     He pushes himself hard with friends and I get the grumpy sick version.  

    Partly just needing to vent, but need some encouragement to keep movingi forward.   

  • Missing that old you by: SilviaM 1 year 3 months ago

    I was thinking about waiting for you to come back home and then we would have this talk. But I changed my mind.
    I still love you. With all my heart. But I don't feel I am loved by you anymore and this is very painful, believe me. I have tried to give us one last chance... but I am realizing it is useless. You don't love me anymore. I don't know why you keep telling me you do.
    I would understand you better if you say that you love someone else or you don't want to date me anymore.
    I keep messaging you, begging for you attention... and you don't show me you care about me. Do you know what? This is making me really sick. I gained a lot of weight because of our fights, I am not being able to work, study, doing anything because I am very depressed. I have to have my life back.
    Breaking up is really hurting me. Because I don't want to leave you. But I am feeling I have no option. I need to feel loved. And I don't feel loved by you anymore. I feel I am alone in this relationship. I feel you don't care about this anymore. You changed so much. And I miss a lot that old you. I miss that old you so much. It is like that old you have died and I miss that old you so much... and I will miss that old you until the day I die and more.  I keep looking for that old you when we talk... but the old you is gone forever. And I wish so much that old you could come back because that old you is the love of my life. That old you was so excited, glad, full of ideas and plan... I spent with that old you the best days of my life... If you can find that old you, please, let me know... because I love him so much. And I miss him so much.

  • Divorce brings surreal experiences by: Swedish coast 1 year 3 months ago

    Hello again, divorce from my severe ADD husband is slowly progressing.

    Things are surreal. My husband who for 22 years has relied on me for all planning, prioritizing and all ideas, and the brunt of practical parenting, who hasn't been able to reliably work even part time in five years, now has great confidence in making an equal parent for our children post divorce.

    He is convinced he will be able to work as much as it takes to put up a reasonably large home. He wants the children to live with him periodically or as much as possible. He thinks he will be able to plan and cook meals for them (which ADD has prevented up until today). He believes he will be consistent for them once he moves away from me.

    Hearing this is certainly an experience for me. Basically he says I've been so negative for his health, that all psychiatric illness he's suffered will be gone with our relationship.

    I have no words för describing how it feels. Imagine that I've overworked myself onto the brink of self-destruction for this. To compensate for him resting in bed all these years.

    To anyone who hesitates to leave a dysfunctional partner for fear they won't manage on their own I'd say: go ahead and do it. 

  • Learning Conversations and Mirror Conversations by: DeeDee25 1 year 3 months ago

    Just finished the book and I have a question about the learning conversations and mirror conversations.  Does anyone do these in real life? I honestly cannot fathom my husband (ADHD) and myself (ADHD-ish but more a nag) speaking to each other like this. We are the couple that almost got kicked out of Lamaze class for laughing when the instructor said that he'd need to tell me really nice things when I was at the peak of labour pains. Lucky for him I ended up with 3 c-sections which he was completely silent all the way thru. So, I'm not feeling really confident that either of us will be able to seriously converse in this manner. Has anyone discovered a useful alternative or maybe a less talky version of these types of conversations?

  • Protecting the kids or letting them see what is real? by: Off the roller ... 1 year 3 months ago

    Long time lurker here, posted a couple of times. My backstory: my 9 year old son was diagnosed with cancer at 8 months old and he fnished his loooong treatment plan and fully done and released in Sept 22. So we are almost fully out OUT which is a big deal. And my husband has been recently diagnosed with ADD this year and is kinda doing ok, but kinda not. It's a roller coaster to be honest and one that I'm not sure I want to be on anymore (but that's for another post). I'm the non-ADHD spouse and will raise my hand that I've enabled, parented and all the other things that I've learned are not that great to do. My husband and I together for around 19 years, married for 15. My child has been displaying some tendencies at times, but nothing flagged yet for a diagnosis or anything yet. 

    My question is this: how much do we 'shield' our kids from our spouses? 

    I've noticed lately that my son has taken to requesting to make requests. My husbands under-management of his ADHD symptoms as well as his outbursts and definite disregulation absolutely RULES our house. I don't even know where to begin to try to correct it and it's so overwhelming day in and day out with how much has just been 'left' for someone to pick up and deal with (and I'm admittingt hat it's usually me who picks it up so many times I've been trying to work on NOT picking up the emotional baggage that my husband brings to each day). So my 9 year son makes these requests JUST TO MAKE A REQUEST. So he's literally asking to speak and ask a question before actually asking and speaking that question. It broke my heart yesterday bc I don't even blame him but I hate that he's learned this behaviour from me, our home, our family, etc. We often don't know what kind of mood my husband will be in and simple requests, i.e. picking up something, cleaning up after yourself, etc can be met with such anger and then some days he acts like he's shocked that we are walking on eggshells around him. 

    But I am just so mad at myself for letting it get this bad. I don't even know where to begin to help correct it or even just help my son to be more assertive (if that's even the right word to use in this situation). My husband then will say something so off the wall to me about our son and then he won't even acknowledge that he was the cause of the distress and then doesn't do anything to repair with our son, and just ignores it and keeps going (and then wonders why our son gravitates towards me more).

    Or maybe it's the case that it's best to just keep focusing on myself, showing up for my son and trying the best I can do...and leaving my husband to just flap about. It sounds cruel but I have depleated all compassion and empathetic resources for him. For me, in 10+ years I want to look back and be proud of how I acted and what I did. No matter the outcome. 

    It's just so fucking hard. All of it. Exhausting and hard. Any advice in relation to kids - specifically when they are around this age of 8-10 years old. I'd appreciate it. 

  • How do you deal with the disorganization? by: Anonymous (not verified) 1 year 3 months ago

    New here, first post.

    Generalized "backgrounds":

    Me (non ADHD) - Prior enlisted Marine and member of the International Legion of Ukraine (mercenary). On the go. Highly aware and in tune, very structured and disciplined. Research and intel. Routines are key. Low tolerance for perceived laziness. (Painting a picture of my rigorous structure)

    Partner (ADHD) - Computer marketing, works from home. Sporadic, impulsive, impatient. No consistent structure. Diminished attention span (duh). Forgetful, unmotivated, messy, indecisive, highly emotional(ly unstable at times). (Painting a picture of her apparent complete lack of structure)

    Some of my frustrations include some frequent fliers around these forums, it would seem.

    • Please do [insert literally anything]. //  Doesn't get done, even after repeated reminders/encouragements.
    • You have to do [insert task] at the same time EVERY DAY! How do you NEVER remember?
    • Knows she could prevent X-Y-Z from happening with a simple alarm or reminder. //  Doesn't implement said alarm/reminder even after we discuss doing so.
    • Starts more projects in a day than I have ever attempted in my life, but finishes none of them. Still insists on starting more.
    • Avoids budgeting and money concerns and makes poor and unnecessary purchases.

    My main question is... How does everyone manage/cope/deal with the extreme level of disorganized chaos that is ADHD (in this case)?

    I love my lady, don't get me wrong. If I didn't love her, I surely wouldn't be researching how to be better for her. I am just very new to this aspect of life, and it's a literal culture shock to me to know there are such people that exist. I often find myself thinking things like, "How on Earth did you survive this long?". I know it's not her fault, which is why I continue to learn and love. I have to tell you though, after 3 wars over 20 years... this is the hardest battle I've ever had to fight. An "enemy" that doesn't die. It is mindbogglingly difficult for me to adjust to. Any suggestions would be helpful.

     

    Troops in contact! S.O.S.

  • Need Guidance by: pangaea 1 year 3 months ago

    My wife in 20 years has never helped me.She's 52. I have to cook, clean, do the bills, buy groceries, cut the grass, decorate, take her to her appointments etc for over 20 years. I've never had a meal made for me, Not for my birthday, not for Christmas. Never. She constantly acts like a bratty 16 year old and I just can't get her to be responsible. A few times she's drained our bank account to give her sister money for drugs. I've had to sell our old home and move to a new city because she stopped working 12 years ago. I have no friends nor family here. I get the blame for everything. her family hates me because she makes up stories when we fight and calls them to get what i call " negative re-inforcement" Her attitude has always beem " I don't have to do anything I don't want to do" so we fight constantly about chores, money etc. I never thought that someone I've cared for so much can make me feel so unimportant. She doesn't know (or remember) anything about me. I truly feel if something happened to me she wouldn't be able to answer any question a doctor etc would ask. Everything out of her mouth is " I don't know or I don't care" . She's addicted to her tablet to the point of she believes the conversations she says she's having with 80's rock stars. As I write this, she walked out to go to her sisters  because we had an argument about her being inconsiderate. She's done this dozens of times in 20 years. For a time her threat was "I'm leaving" each time she didn't get her way. Of late it's " I'm killing myself" because i yell at her because she didn't do her chores or find out our bank account was hacked. 

    Am i stuck with this? As usual she disappears for 3 days and then just shows up saying she's packing her things and leaving. I remind her that her sisters have families and you can't just walk into their lives and disrupt it. That's when the I"m killing myself comes into play. 

    I don't know what to do anymore because i'm so sick of being angry with her. 

    I don't understand how someone can consciously not help someone who has done everything for them in the last 20 years. 

     

  • I Fear my Wife has had Enough of Me by: BetterHusbandBe... 1 year 3 months ago

    Hi all,

    I hope everyone is well. I’m here for a bit of advice. I’ve been a long time lurker and also posted coming up to a year ago now about mine and my wife’s marriage. In summary, we separated about a year ago (entirely my doing and my fault, and I take no pleasure in writing that). We’ve been back together since the start of the year. I love her and my family dearly. Almost definitely more than they’ll ever know.

    Bit of background -

    - We’ve been together for about 8 and a half years

    - 3 kids, 1 year, 6 years & 7 years

    - She has autism, I have ADHD (severe, combined) 

    I’ve truly made a real effort since we got back together at the start of the year. I want to be a better husband. I want to be a better father. 

    I’m certain I’ve made improvements in both whilst also accepting that there is certainly room for significant improvement. I’ve tried, I’ve really, truly and genuinely tried. Has it always been good? No, not always. But, In fairness, I know she isn’t looking for perfection and her expectations are realistic. 

    I’m trying to understand and make sense of where things are at currently and whether my feelings are driven by ADHD/RSD, whether it’s my past actions, or whether it’s just ‘the plain and simple truth’. I’m 100% committed to doing whatever needs to be done, but I fear that she doesn’t actually want to be with me and, therefore, whatever I do won’t be enough to make her love me and want to be with me. Just writing that out feels like a million knives. 

    Here’s a brief summary:

    - I don’t think she likes me at all. 

    - I don’t think she actually wants to be around me. 

    - I think that if I didn’t say “I love you” first, she’d never say it

    - We’re not intimate at all. I don’t just mean sex, I mean any form of intimacy.

    All of the above is making my head run wild and I’ve spent so much energy trying to work things out and make sense of it all, but I can’t, hence the post I guess. 

    Is this all in my head? 

    Is it all true? 

    I just don’t know. I do often get into my own head but actions speak louder than words and the actions I’m seeing heavily suggest that she simply hates me and wishes I wasn’t around. 

    I’d like to understand this, but also continue working on being a better husband and a better father. I’m 100% committed to this. 

    I’d be so appreciative of some help or guidance if anyone wouldn’t mind? 

  • Struggling to put an end to the marriage by: TiredPartnerBr 1 year 3 months ago

    Hi, everybody! This is my second post here. The first one was a little over 3 months ago about how difficult it has been for me and my husband (ADHD), specially since the baby (1y6m) was born. Thank you so much for all the feedback and advice!! 
    Unfortunately, things have not improved since then. We've been seeing a couples therapist, but I don't know if it's helping that much. It's so draining all of this. 
    We've been fighting so much, even in front of the baby, which is the last thing that I wanted!! I don't want us to hate each other. When enough is enough? It's been almost a year, and it's only getting worse. We've been together for 20 years now, maybe we are afraid to face the truth... it's so, so sad all of this.
    Everytime we fight, it's like we are living in 2 completely different universes. It's madness and it doesn't go anywhere. He says I started the fight, and I say he's the one who started the fight. I say he is being aggressive and impatient towards me and the baby, he says that I'm the one who's being aggressive and etc. 

    Our finances are a mess, and I've been asking for our banks infos and etc for almost a year, and he doesn't give it to me, so we might be in debt and I don't even know it! I can't live like this anymore. How can I find the straingth to leave? He is an amazing dad, a truly wonderful person, so it's hard... 

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