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  • ADHD mistaken for Narcissistic Personality Disorder? by: sunnycoaster 1 year 3 months ago

    Hello everyone, this is my first post here. I have read the "ADHD effect" book and it was a revelation.


    I have been married to my wife for 12 years, and while there have been "issues" it was a happy marriage for the first ten years. We have a son who is 9.
    Recently we have moved to another country and this seems to have triggered something in my wife. She also had a long form of covid that lasted for many months. The "problems" (textbook ADHD symptoms) were however there right from the start pretty much, I just didnt know what they were and what to do with them.
    I first thought she has narcissistic personality disorder and was fairly set on that - until I came across the ADHD symptoms...... I had no idea and now I have gained a fairly clear picture. I always had a feeling that while her conduct taken at face value would indicate narcissism, there is a missing element - she isnt taking advantage of other people, she's not in it for the gain or for admiration, I am pretty sure of that. As selfish as she may come across at times, it doesnt look like she's out to get an advantage, there isn't any malicious intent in her actions and omissions, it's just that she can't get her act together in so many things.

    I had long resented her for getting up in the morning, making herself a lovely cappucino and not even asking me if I want one too. Or just not bringing the products home from the supermarket that I enjoy, she would usually come back with the bare basics only. Or the fact that when we are on a vacation trip (that I organised all alone) she wouldnt even see if she can find a nice restaurants or do anything at all. She's really bad with household cleaning too (and if she does something it's usually really sloppy and I have to do it again) and her own bathroom is so dirty honestly I wouldnt use it myself. It's filthy. Her clothes are thrown into the wardrobe with no system, some not even folded, it's a complete mess. I heard about the "ADHD walk" with the posture sway and it's 100% her. She also constantly runs into things, she forgets to switch the iron off and leaves the house for a week. It's scary at times. She left the gas cooking stove on twice, burning away the whole night. She has no vision or goal in life other than make her boss at work happy - which she does consistently, her shortcomings at home and in our marriage are completely absent (it seems to me from the outside) at her work life. 

    I task her with easy things like "Please buy a bed head for your bed otherwise we'll have to paint the wall when we move out" and she says yes and nothing happens. That was a year ago and she still doesnt have a bed head. She also wasn't able to buy placemats for the dinner table, I have to do all these kinds of things myself because she can't get them done. I manage all finances, insurances, pension plans, travel, etc. 100% myself for the family, she has no interest. She hasn't picked up a paintbrush once, hung no photo on a wall ever, and generally drifts along in our life without making substantial contributions. She can't make a family home a nice place, it's imposible for her.

    The thing that got me thinking and really alarmed was when our son got a diagnosis for severe dustmite allergy (and we live in a rental place with an old carpet). We treated his room together and then explicitly agreed that she would take care of the necessary steps from there - meaning vacuuming, dusting blinds etc. As it happened she was away for a few days and I got around to vacuuming his room with a new dustbag, and it was shocking. The room was absolutely filthy, six weeks after my son's diagnosis. When she got back I confronted her and she admitted she had not vacuumed it even once. She wasnt able to say why, just that "i didnt expect this". I got soooo angry with her and our marriage is seriously on the rocks now because of all of this. We have a serious problem with me being the parent and her being a child in our relationship, and we both actually acknowledged that even before I came across ADHD as a possibility. It's terrible. I sometimes think of her as an imbecile, despite the fact that I love her so much. I have zero trust in her that she can get things done and contribute to our life.

    I am scared to confront her with the suggestion that she may have ADHD. Not only because she might reject it, but also because I was set on her having narcissistic personality disorder and now I'm pretty sure I am wrong with that. What if I am wrong again? I will come across as a husband who is trying to label his wife as mentally ill, it's not who I want to be. And maybe it's NPS after all or maybe something completely different... who knows....

    How have others approached their better half with this topic? I am so scared of doing the wrong thing and ruining my marriage - which I really want to save - irrecoverably.

    Hoping for some of you out there to share your thoughts and how you went about it in order to get your partner to seek a diagnosis. Many thanks from downunder

  • How to get on speaking terms with my non adhd partner by: Martijn-D 1 year 3 months ago

    Hi,

    I have a question and maybe people around here have similar experiences. Forgive my lack of English, I'm Dutch. I'm a 39 year old man, just diagnosed with ADHD and in the middle of a rollercoaster of acceptance and other things.

    About 11 months ago my girlfriend mentioned that i might have ADHD. Looking at my problems, sometimes angry out of nothing and my impulsivity, Next to the hyperactivity. The day after we spoke about it I made an appointment for diagnostic. But it would last 10 months for my appointment. 


    Two weeks prior to my appointment it was my girlfriends' birthday. It was in a packed joint somewhere downtown and I had some beers. At first I was really relaxed but unfortunately my mood turned from happy to angry in just a millisecond. Not towards my girlfriend but towards men who were bullying me. That ended up in a fearless fight right in front of my girlfriend and her friends.

     

    Due to this my girlfriend broke although she knows I probably can't do anything about it. 2 weeks later I was diagnosed with ADHD and probably caused the problems that night. To many signals, to many people, etc etc.

    My girllfriend tells me she that she doesn't blame me but it was enough. As you can imagine it is very difficult for me to let it go. Because she's the one. We love each other endless. What can I do to get her back or at least around the table to talk? What can i suggest without pressuring her?

    Hope to hear from you.

    Kind regards, Martijn

  • My fallen apart social life by: Swedish coast 1 year 3 months ago

    My ADD husband and I used to have a lot of good friends. We saw friends all the time. I felt we were sought after because we brought fun to gatherings.

    A couple of decades later, this is all gone. I have grieved it immeasurably. For many years, before diagnosis, I couldn't understand why it happened. My charming and kind husband started to withdraw from social events and became afraid to speak on the phone. He lost his confidence. I then lost my confidence, because it seems nothing makes you as vulnerable socially as a weakened partner. 

    Friends turned on me. They made fun of my husband and me. We let them. Family acted awkwardly as contact became more and more difficult. It was all so unexpected. I never managed to defend myself or confront anyone. I felt so confused and hurt, I finally just gave up most of the people I used to care for. 

    And since then, I haven't recovered. I can guess what's wrong with me socially: I'm anxious to be accepted. I don't want to put people off, so I choose my words and actions carefully. I probably constantly scan people's faces and voices for signs of dismissal. People don't like it.

    I've tried to make new friends for us as a family. Nothing sticks. We now have the tiniest circle of old friends, and we don't see them very often.

    I used to get away with arrogance, feeling generally admired and loved. Now, humble and friendly, and using my tuned-in professional communication skills, I am deep down convinced nobody likes me.

    Does anybody recognize this?

    How is it that ADD can do this to the partner?

    How can I ever regain that confidence? 

  • I think I tried too much, I pushed her away by: skippylongstock 1 year 3 months ago

    (Im non ADHD F28) My (ex) partner has non diagnosed ADD(F29), 2 months ago she came to me and said she believed she has adhd, I was in the middle of intense study, so we looked at getting tests done to find out it’s was $4.5k! We didn’t have that at the time and I also needed to apply for a new visa (too many big money bills) so we tried to get a DR appointment which was a bit of a wait and then I went back to focusing on my study. 
    A month ago we had a big fight, over me not wanting her friend to stay for a week due to being on shift work and coming up to exams (my partner understood the day before and said no to her friend but somehow we argued over it the next day), she got her mum involved and things kicked off. Long story short it’s been stupidly messy and she ended it via text after spending 1 night with her mum (a week prior we were talking about buying a house together and future big life plans), she stated she didn't have space before to see - she had half of the last 5 months of me being away in a hotel for study/work.
    I started doing research (because I was clueless) and found this book that literally sounded like someone wrote our relationship in a book, so I shared it with her. She hasn't read it yet. My (ex)partner being filled with lies about how I’m dangerous, a narcissist, gaslighting etc  etc, (never giving me any evidence or event that has happened to back these up) by her mum and friend who know nothing about our relationship and don’t like me all of a sudden. 
    I tried to share all of the information I’ve found (because it’s fascinating but sounds terrifying for her and I want to show I care and want to understand)bought the book, offered to pay for specialised counselling, shared councillors etc. I found hope and then understood what was going on and why, I have soooo much love for this girl, we’ve been together for 3 years, but I think I’ve overloaded her with information which in turn has pushed her away to the point she is not declining any help I’ve offered. She wants the help and the diagnosis but she is also trying to process the lies from her family and friend. Her mum and friend are controlling her so much that she was not allowed to see me on her own since she left, we met to organise the house in a cafe and she was short and sharp and quite horrible when her friend was there. Her friend had to leave which left her with me and our mutual friend who is not taking any sides, and she completely changed, back to her normal self, laughing joking, talking and listening with me, etc etc. Now she has stopped responding to my messages even about the important stuff for the house before the lease ends next week. She has also stopped communicating without friends who are like a family to us, which makes me feel it's even bigger than just our relationship. 
    I don’t know what to do because I think I’ve tried to share the adhd stuff so that she can understand but also hoping that she then realises that where she is right now is toxic but by sharing this I’ve pushed her away. Is all I have to do now is wait and be there for her when she realises or what can I do? I love her more than anything else!

  • Wife wants to leave but can’t decide on divorce. by: Lost83 1 year 3 months ago

    Hi all, this is my first time posting anything like this and I'm looking for some advice. As of recently the world as I know it has been turned upside down. In hindsight many of these things have been brewing for a while but it just seemed so sudden. I'm 40 travel during the week for work. We do well enough for my wife to stay home kids, dogs etc. We just purchased a camper as I've been dispatched to a job in an area that would be nice for that sort of thing and that way we can all be together after work. Upon trying to sort out some household things as we would have to figure out some arrangements for her hobby farm animals it seemed too much. That spiraled into her wanting to go back to Florida which is something we have talked about and both agreed on but things need to be done in order to leave. Ie repairs around house prior to listing among other things.  Short story is we went from being together this summer to she wants to take kids to Florida and live there. Throughout our conversations I had asked where I fit into this and she says she's not sure. Her doctor has pulled her off meds several months ago and her counselor seems to be telling her that this is something she needs to do to make herself happy. She's brought up divorce but more so in a way of she doesn't feel it's fair to hold me hostage and can't seem to make her mind up on that. We are great friends, rarely have ever argued, and really get along well in general. Like I had said in hindsight our relationship has deteriorated throughout the years but more so in a drifting apart manner more than anything. But over the last few weeks it has really gone downhill. I know I'm leaving a lot out but I don't want to be too long winded. I asked her if she would be willing to try couples therapy and she agreed so I guess maybe there's hope. I'm just hoping someone has some advice or words of wisdom from being in a similar situation. I deeply love my wife and want to save our marriage I just don't know what to do anymore. 

  • Physical Boundaries by: Hopeful Heart 1 year 4 months ago

    My husband and my son both have adhd. My son was a huge handful to raise. We worked 100x harder raising him than we did our daughter. We managed to keep him on track fairly well while he lived with us throughout grade school. After he left for college (10 hours away) he became a drug addict. Two years ago he took LSD and went into a deep state of psychosis. He stayed in psychosis for several months and spent 20 days in a mental hospital. He has relapsed several times since then and had another bout of psychosis after using edibles. As you can imagine, it's been a chaotic nightmare. 

    He's now 23 years old and currently living and working 25 miles from where I live with my husband. I feel the need for some physical boundaries from the chaos that my son has the ability to create. I want to keep the code to the entry door of our house private. I can set up a temporary code from my phone and give him access at any time. I just don't want him to have unlimited access without my knowledge. My husband has shamed me and tried to make me feel guilty for this decision.

    What do you think? Am I being unreasonable by wanting and needing some physical boundaries?

     

  • Do I make a list? by: Eighpryl_AB 1 year 4 months ago

    My husband has asked me to make a list of how he SHOULD respond because he doesn't read my cues, wording, or responses well. I've felt like he has completely disregarded my feelings and opinions for years because he would usually do what he wanted even after he asked me what i wanted to do, then therewould be a big fight and he would say he didn't think it was that big of a deal to me. Since figuring out he has ADHD, I have become much more assertive and emphatic when I don’t want to do something so as not to give him the idea that I could be convinced or that I was undecided (a polite "no" from me was never a full stop, more a beginning point for persuasion or argument for him, causing me to to feel like I am not taken seriously or allowed to have my own opinions about things). Now he is constantly accusing me of being angry or being mean, and defensively telling me to calm down. I'm not angry, mean, or riled up. I am simply being emphatic so there is no "mistake" about my thoughts or feelings. He says he need me to write down what I really mean and how he should interpret it or understand what I'm saying. I don't want to.  I have been very specific for years and he just blew me off.  After dealing with his behaviors with no diagnosis for all these years and getting nothing but pushback when I tried to communicate with him or stand up for myself, I don't think it's my job to write him an operator's manual for dealing with me. I have encouraged him to go to therapy or get coaching since he is completely opposed to meds. He wants to do couple's therapy. I begged him to go for years and he refused, and now I am no longer in a place where I have any desire to do so until he starts taking some ownership of his ADHD and managing it himself because I have done all the reading and research and I feel like he's only gone along with it and done NOTHING himself besides listen to sermons on how to be a good husband. That's great and all, but the problem is bigger than selfishness and character defects. Anyway, am I just being unreasonable or am I correct in thinking this is just another way I'm having to do the work and he isn't making a serious effort?

  • Separation Advice Needed by: Elliej 1 year 4 months ago

    Hi
    This community has helped me in the past. Im unsure why im posting today but i just feel like i need to. Im currently separated from my husband. Its been 7/8months and im in limbo. All decisions about the marriage and the future are, in my opinion, being left to me.

    The reasons for my separation are lengthy. Over the marriage (which wasnt all bad, there were great times) my husband sexually explicitly messaged another woman for weeks/months, messaged an ex saying about me "i do love her but i wish i had settled down sooner", he smoked pot for 15years, was fired for sexual harassment (sending a porn image to a female co-worker and lots of other stuff), used porn frequently, watched camera girls and partially completed a dating profile (not active). He also hasnt initiated intimacy for 1.5years making me lonely. Throughout the years he has:

    1. constantly interrupted me when i speak, 


    2. blameshifted on minor things (such as i have moved his things, its my fault he is late as i didnt wake him, he smoked pot as i prefer this to alcohol, he changed all passwords so i cant view anything for me etc)


    3. Told me im wrong almost daily in really subtle ways, without saying the words you are wrong (no actually its this, constantly has an opposing view, seeking other peoples opinions when ive given a view and then going with them, or simply ignored my view)

    4. Downplayed all behaviour as a joke, no intent to hurt me, nothing happened in the real world

    We seperated after he was diagnosed. I repeatedly said you havent registered with the doctor, you havent got an appointment, you havent started counselling, you havent gone on medicine. I dont feel i can do marriage counselling until he does the above - ive put loads of effort in and im not met halfway. Im in counselling individually and have been for a year. He said its overwhelming for him to do the above due to his ADHD. I have depression, anxiety due to his behaviour towards me and i still am trying. My friends have said everything that has happened is very abusive. I dont know how i got here.

    My point is i feel he isnt trying to fight to save the marriage. He disagrees and said he has made himself available to talk whenever i want. But in 7months thats all he has done. Also in those talking moments, on 5occassions he has shown minimal empathy and used those moments to prove why he is right....however he said he was clarifying his point.

    Have any of you experienced this during your separations? Just a total full stop, minimal effort, waiting for you to move things forward one way or another? How did you cope......when was it enough.

    This wasnt the way i expected my life to go. Im in such deep grief at the loss of my family unit, and only seeing my kids 50%. Im so chronically lonely and wondering if making the marriage work is better than being alone. Ive not really seen any similar posts regarding betrayal or infidality on this site. Thank you

  • Not sure what to do now by: Brokenbrain 1 year 4 months ago

    Hi all, I really feel like I need to let some things out and try to get some perspective on what's happening.

    My issues have brought my relationship to a crossroads. I have struggled with some issues for years, some are a carry over from my childhood and others seemed to be from more environmental factors, stresses at that current time, work, money issues, just 'life stuff'.

    I have always had a temper of sorts, I would blow up on occasion at seemingly nothing which was always odd as I felt and seemed to my partner to be pretty chill most of the time. My mother did the same thing but on a more regular basis so after some discussions and some failed anger management classes my wife and I seemed to have this big 'ah ha!' moment where we looked more at my past and how I could be affected by it; this is when we looked into cptsd.

    Fast forward to around 5 years ago and things weren't any different, I had tried to sort things using techniques I had learned for cptsd and anger issues but I seemed to keep sliding I to the same old issues, the same repetitive actions and routines and time would pass without me realising that I hadn't been doing as much as I should have.

    My wife by this point was understandably upset, it had been years of this and it needed to change. I began to look at myself a lot more, to focus inward and really work on myself. Through doing this I feel I was able to connect to a part of myself I hadn't ever done before, I felt things that had been shut away for years and it slowly began to unravel. I muddled through as best I could, trying to tame these now unchecked feelings and my wife, again understandably, was suffering and I hated that. It drove a lot of the feelings about the situation inwards at myself and I began to really spiral into deep shame and self loathing.

    After a joking conversation about me always tapping and being forgetful my wife joked that I should do an adhd test, so I did. This was the beginning of a huge realisation.
    After doing the test and it pinging up telling me I was highly likely to have adhd I began to dive into researching it and wow, it was like I was reading about myself. It explained everything. Everything about myself and my actions that never fully made sense, that always just seemed like quirks, it was adhd.

    That brings us to today. I have spoken to my GP about seeking a diagnosis and have been told that it could take anywhere from 6 months to 2 years to begin the process properly, I have filled out a form and now it's in their hands to refer me further. I have been looking into what therapy options are available to me but as I am currently out of work I am limited to what I can afford. We have savings but I have been worried about using those as they are our lifeline for food and housing costs.
    I have struggled lately with the stress of the situation and several other things that have been going on and it has affected my ability to keep ontop of my easily fluctuating moods and emotions, I'm not excusing myself, I know I am fully accountable for my actions I just also know that external factors can make it harder.

    When issues crop up my wife likes to talk about them right away, which I like as things can get resolved quickly, but today she has told me that she has had enough. A few things have happened today and I went into a shame spiral which completely overrode her feelings on what had happened. There have been lots of tears, lots of talks and she told me she wants to separate for a while. I feel broken, I know she has been through so much and I've really wanted to make it better for her. I knew this could happen but now we are here I just feel hopeless, she has told me that she thinks she doesn't even like me anymore and I just feel numb. I know I have a massive problem, i hate my broken brain, I hate that I have done this to her and to us and I want to fix myself so badly but I don't know if I can be 'fixed' to be who she needs me to be and that cuts deep and I feel lost.
    I know I should have done more sooner but I didn't realise it was the adhd holding me back and making me not stick to things or to follow through on getting help.

  • How to apologize by: Quercus McGurkus 1 year 4 months ago

    Hi folks,

    I'm the ADHD husband. I just got diagnosed and on meds in March of this year. I also am bi-polar 1 and have been on meds for the past 18 or so months.

    My focus and energy are better and I'm seeing the needle move on some behavior stuff and others I still struggle with. 

    My wife and I will be celebrating our 25th anniversary in 3 weeks. Our story is very similar to others on this site where I exhibited many of the actions and attitudes of a mentally ill person who was not getting treatment or medicine. Those actions and attitudes 100% affected my family in a negative way. 

    I know now my triggers for anger are rejection, comparison and being found wanting, feeling less than, and put downs regarding my intelligence. I just learned this last week. 

    My question: last November I called my wife while I was out of town and she was upset. I asked why and she grew heated and hung up on me. She wrote a long angry email saying I will never change and that I had talked big about an anniversary trip and done nothing and now she didn't even want to go and that a lot of her friends were going overseas for anniversaries and if I had done right she could go as well. 
    I had been working on getting my passport and a budget and looking for flights. I hadn't talked much about it because she said she wants actions not words and I wanted to have most of a plan together before talking to her. 
    When I read that email I was triggered, it hit all points, and I tossed all my work and didn't bring up a trip at all or talk about our anniversary. 
     

    She's right. In the past I have done those things, talk about X and not execute or just say something to please her and forget or just plain forget. Money is tight. I don't have the same capacity as our friend's husbands. 
     

    How do I apologize for this? I feel like I should say something. I can't apologize for having ADHD or bi-polar but can or should I apologize for being ignorant of the WHY behind throwing out my plans? I do not want to blame her. I reacted to her words but I don't think she is responsible for my reaction. She can say or do whatever she wants and I still need to respond correctly. 
     

    I'm a people pleaser and hate and am scared of anger and confrontation. I do want to do the right thing though regardless of her response. 

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