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  • Permission to live your own life by: jennalemone 4 years 3 weeks ago

    "If you love someone else more than yourself, you will always compromise too much, ignore the red flags, get hurt, and lose yourself in your relationships."

    I am trying to understand myself better and know myself better.  When I was a young girl I was taught over and over again that I should love Jesus first, Others second and Yourself last = JOY.  Most of the women who grew up in my mainstream protestant church are today similar to me....meek, obedient and ineffective because we do not allow ourselves to fight....trying to love Jesus and Others and putting down ourselves even in our mature years. There are a few strong women...but I am perceiving that they had parents who adored them and encouraged them to be strong.  Most of us in those Sunday School classes were from families where obedience was mandatory and disobedience had disastrous consequences.  Many of us did not give ourselves the permission to do anything but obey anyone who might have a rule to give us, trying very hard not to offend anyone. And that includes our spouses who were not being loving toward us.  I have not found the key to permitting myself to be a mature woman who can stand up to oppression.  I am ashamed of that but it is true.  But I am searching and trying.

    "Because, to be honest, losing yourself is far more painful than losing a relationship. And it will take you forever to find your strength, dignity, and truth again."

  • Telling my ADHD husband he had ADHD: How and when? by: Sabigail 4 years 1 month ago

    I know that my husband has ADHD, but he does not. I am trying to figure out how to talk to him about this diagnosis. I can say he has it with confidence because I am a psychotherapist. This only makes it harder to talk to him about social and emotional issues because he does not want me using my "therapy" on him. How do I get this information into his brain? It is at the core of our marriage difficulties and after 35+ years of marriage, I am not sure we will make it one more.

  • Our pediatrician said without prompting... by: bowlofpetunias 4 years 1 month ago

    I had to pick our daughter up from school with a fever and take her to see the pediatrician.  We were the only ones there. 

    He came out and said that I really have my hands full, with our daughter (who has had several psychiatric hospitalizations recently), our son, AND MY WIFE.  He said something about how much she fought with our daughter when she brought her in last week but then said he was not going to comment further.

  • In or out = out by: kanka 4 years 1 month ago

    Hi everyone,

    This forum has been life-saving for me and wanted to share my story, as I found so many relatable posts here. When I first started drafting this post, I wrote in the subject "In or out = ?" That is no longer so.

    I’m a 28 year old girl, non, and was with my boyfriend for the past 1.5 year, on and off, with the longest ‘on’ lasting for 9 months, and the shortest 2 weeks. This has been my most serious and closest romantic relationship. In the beginning it was wonderful, he was very caring, attentive, affectionate and loving, and our sex was very exciting and close. I fell for him very quickly too, the way we imagined the future together definitely aligned, and it felt very genuine. I knew he had ADHD from the get-go, as he told me about it on our first date. With what I know now, he also has co-morbid conditions and has had a very difficult childhood - after his parents’ divorce, his mother uncontrollably went off Prozac overnight and wasn’t able to take care of him and his brother; she gave them to the father who within two years after that burnt down the house when he drunkenly fell asleep with a cigarette in his hand. I found out about these events by accident, in the passing, and my ex just brushed them off, saying they never had a big impact on his life (?!).

    I have to say that the moment we started dating I was very uneducated what ADHD entailed in adults. The only issue I noticed at that time was his heightened anxiety. I have been dealing with my own anxiety too, rather about long term issues, but with him sometimes someone would say one word in the shop, or he would just be standing in the kitchen, and became unrecognisably distracted and disturbed, saying he had anxiety about something he can’t even pinpoint.

    The moment our fairytale turned into my personal nightmare was exactly 6 months into the relationship. We were riding our bikes and he was extremely anxious the entire time. Then I jovially said something about a grammatical structure in my native Polish language “being weird” and he just flipped out on me, raging that he will never learn the language now, because I was “preconditioning him by judging that structure”. This was an extremely stressful time of my life, as I was in the process of quitting my job, and that evening he pushed me to such an extreme emotionally that I went on anti-anxiety meds the following week. He projected his own anxieties onto me so much, that I just couldn't handle it. From that point things only went South. He became very argumentative and manipulative, and I could never have a normal conversation with him about our issues. He would always turn things around, and rather than having a regular dialogue, he would ask me a series of leading, Socratic questions that inevitably led to an answer he wanted to hear. Whenever I responded to him a way he didn’t like he would start shouting that I’m being defensive, always guilting me for something and gas lighting me. He asked me to switch from condoms to the pill explicitly “because it felt better for him”, and when I gave him a good number of health-related reasons why I wouldn’t want to, he shouted “so you want to get pregnant?!”. He humiliated me in front of my friends saying “he can’t take me seriously” because I smoked socially with them. He had extreme contempt towards people in general, would argue with his co-workers on a regular basis, and during every important conversation would call his boss a “motherf*****.” He was mean by default and I felt it took him a lot of effort to be supportive, rather than a natural reaction, it was a favor. It’s hard for me to describe it in words, but this became so verbally abusive that I left him. After all these fights he always told me that he’d never loved anyone this much before and I recognise now that it was a cycle of abuse that would re-occur. However, it took me all this time to label his behavior as abusive. I think it's so much more difficult to call it that when it's verbal and psychological - after all, you're not visibly left with bruises, you're not bleeding.

    I had a lot of hope when he went to therapy (took him a year after me suggesting it on a regular basis) to work on his issues and be together. His take-away was that his therapist told him that the things that bothered me in him “weren’t bad at all,” it was just that I saw them as bad. So he basically went to therapy to validate his bad behaviors. Towards the very end, every time we talked or saw each other, he initiated an endless fight. I also think that he had more anger issues because he started self-medicating with Concerta this year. He took a different dosage than what his doctor prescribed and would lie to her about it. I noticed his symptoms worsened in the evenings as the meds started wearing off and this is when we'd have most of our arguments. When I advised him not to do it, to speak to his doctor honestly, he tried to manipulate me into thinking that he can't. He was running laps in his mind that I don’t prioritise him - which in his possessive way meant devoting 100% attention to him - he told me that I loved my mother too much, that I loved my dog too much, I was afraid even to tell him that I’m seeing a friend. I always had to walk on eggshells around him. Despite all this, I still felt love and affection towards him. I was afraid that no one would ever love me again this much, but I realize now that the extreme highs I experienced with him were only so intense because of the lows I also went through (I've read this is typical when you're caught in someone's cycle of abuse). Any love I had towards him ended with his last communication “I would rather eat sh*t than be with you, you can’t love and can’t accept love.”

    He was always so adamant about everything, that I almost believed these words - except I have a very strong support system of my friends and family, and with them I simply know it was him purposefully hurting and manipulating me, yet again. This forum helped me so much in understanding some of his behavioural patterns and absolving myself of the guilt I continuously felt with him. I do believe wholeheartedly that people can change, but they have to want to change. If I learned a lesson, through a lot of reading, is that I was caught in a cycle of abuse, and however true the initial feeling of love was, it turned into absolutely unhealthy love.

  • ADHD Partner (Me) Needs Help Managing Tone When Interested by: Tenket 4 years 1 month ago

    Hey all. I will BOLD relevant info for the skim readers. Keen for help from non ADHD and ADHD participants. 

    Currently reading "The Couple's guide to Thriving with ADHD" by Melissa Orlov & Nancie Kohlenberger

    I am not married to my partner but I have severely been rubbing her the wrong way with this reoccurring issue. I am a 27 year old male and she is a 21 year old woman for reference. 

    When I don't understand which parts of what I said weren't understood, I always want to know which bit was misunderstood so I can recall the needed bit before I forget it. Repeating every single part would be exhausting so I try and grab with a quick question the bit they need before the sentence flies out of my brain and is lost to my shitty memory. Typically of ADHD, I usually say too much even when I try not to. That lines me up to fail as it reduces the likelyhood I will recall things too. 

    All that sounds pretty reasonable though that was just the setup, but anyway the issue is what I sound like when I am trying to get that rushed question of which part is not understood. It is flat and emotionless and it squashes her and makes her feel like I think she is stupid or annoying. We have talked about why it happens but what I am at now is just admitting I probably can't remember anything of what I just said, which if you are ADHD yourself makes your normally invisible deficiency feel painfully visible to admit you can't remember something you said 3 seconds ago and that makes you feel even more broken than usual

    I feel like the intense sounding questions are me gripping onto my own brain to cope with poor memory, but all the mental intensity I use to control myself leaks out and makes her feel like garbage

    Has anyone had any experience with this?

    I need some advice. I don't mean to hurt her. I want to hear everything she says and I want everything I say to reach her and be understood by her. Do I have the wrong approach here? I feel like it isn't too late to make a relationship that works here and of course I would not want this to lead to her no longer wanting to cope with me. 

  • He Insists on Fixing Me by: TryingtoChange 4 years 1 month ago

    I'm the non-ADHD spouse. A little backstory, we've been married for two years and I've dealt with a lot of his impulsiveness, rage, mood swings, and general irresponsibility. These things caused me to create unhealthy coping mechanisms and dynamics and earlier this year our relationship was pure chaos. So we went to counseling and things started to get better. But recently things are crazy again. 
     

    I realized I have severe depression and anxiety so I started on some antidepressants which truly saved my life. The first day on them, my husband was so happy with the change I made and he actually cried saying he missed me and he's glad I'm not suffering. 
     

    Weeks have went by and now that I'm in therapy dealing with unhealthy coping mechanisms and codependency issues, it's awoken a beast inside of him. In our entire relationship, when he sets boundaries whether he vocalizes them or not, they're expected to be followed or he will rage. So his boundaries are always respected. Recently I started setting my own boundaries and all hell has broken loose. He doesn't respect any of them. He makes me feel bad for having an hour or two to myself. My medication makes me really tired so if I go to sleep an hour before him (usually around 1AM) he'll complain for a week saying I don't want to spend time with him and I'm always hiding from him so I can't complain about not spending quality time with him because it's my fault we don't have it. Usually we have sex every day or multiple times a day, but since starting antidepressants and birth control I have a much lower sex drive. This has been such a problem. It's "my fault" I have a low sex drive (and it's not even low honestly, he's just hyper sexual) Now instead of every day we have sex every two or three days. Which to me is plenty often. But he makes me feel guilty constantly. He says I think he's nasty and when I do want to have sex he's says I'm just lying to make him feel better. Even if we have good sex and I tell him I enjoyed it he says I'm lying. This has caused so many arguments it's not even funny. 
     

    Finally, if I tell him I need reassurance or I need to talk about a problem, he jumps past listening and tells me everything he thinks I'm doing wrong and what I need to do better. When I tell him I don't need solutions I just need to vent and feel better, he says I never want to change and I blame my depression for everything. When I ask why he always points out what's wrong with me even when I'm just trying to tell him my feelings he says he has to fix me because I'm incapable of fixing myself (even though I am in therapy and taking medication to fix myself). He says he has to fix me his way. 

    All I see now that I've gotten a grip on my mental health are red flags. He's not medicated and not in therapy but says he is putting more effort into changing than I am and I'm not trying hard enough  

    I had no idea me changing for the better would trigger a side of him I've never seen. He is so critical and cold towards me it's honestly making it more difficult for me to set boundaries and make personal progress. I'm at a loss here and I have no clue what to do. 

  • ADHD RAGE by: inSearchForHope 4 years 1 month ago

    My husband is diagnosed with ADHD. I do not have it. I would very much appreciate advice on this: 

    my husband is large, tall and very loud person, I'm the opposite-petite , skinny and very quiet( naturally). English is his language and I'm not a native speaker and putting sentences together under huge stress is very hard. When we have a disagreement/ conflict he completely dominates it for the reasons above. Every one of those I enter with a problem to solve and leave with 100 new problems, and emotionally in rags myself, with the feeling that there's no way to be heard, no way to be able to be open and honest. So I silence myself and it all is collecting inside and the I cry it out daily. That is horrible but so far I didn't find a better way to cope. Did anybody? 
    also, last time we talked, he picked the sentence ( pretty trivial one) I said, removed some words, added new ones , switched the word order and claimed that by saying that  I'm being rude and purposely offending him. He was roaring at me like a wild beast, at the top if his lungs ( remember, he's already large and loud ) . Basically, he twisted my words to create reasons to be offended and rage at me.:( I was terrified to death , I mean I basically died on some level then.  
    I just do not know what to do. It wiped out all trust and safety feeling in me. He acts like nothing happened and I'm just crazy depressed woman:(:(:( 

     

  • ER Visit by: bowlofpetunias 4 years 1 month ago

    I had been feeling very dragged out and lightheaded last week.  On Friday, I went to an urgent care facility thinking it might be COVID.  They did do a swab, but they were concerned it was heart related and did an EKG.  That was OK, but they told me to go to the ER to make sure it wasn't a heart problem that they could not detect.  After several hours hooked up to monitors, a blood test, a strep test, and a urine sample, they told me there was nothing physically wrong with me.  The diagnoses was stress--the doctor said that stress could be interrupting my sleep.

    My daughters has been in psychiatric hospitals three times  since July, with even more ER visits.  Last week, she started screaming in a very triggering manner while sitting next to me on a reentry meeting for her school.  I had a lot of pressing work, but I kept getting pulled away for family issues.

    I told my kids about the ER visit and the stress.  Today, my son refused to go to school.  

  • Dual ADHD Couple with ADHD Children and Unemployment/Money Issues during COVID by: ManicDanic 4 years 1 month ago

    I just discovered this site today after looking for books that my wife and I can read together to acknowledge and work on our relationship issues that have become really bad with during COVID as we face money problems due to unemployment, the stress of a parenting an ADHD diagnosed 8 year old and a very active and attached toddler, and caring for my wife's mother who has a very advanced cancer diagnosis. We are coming up on 10 years of marriage and 13 years together. We're at a point where the combined stress of all these factors and the ADHD (and comorbidities like depression, anxiety, anger) are at a point where our resentment towards each other is becoming harder to hide from the kids and I fear that our marriage may not make it through this time. We struggle and fight about home organization and mess more than anything else mainly because it causes me so much stress (as the more organized ADHD partner bearing the majority of the work and responsibility) that it has taken over the majority of family interactions. I wrote a much longer post that turned into a detailed and cathartic outpouring of everything we're dealing with but decided to cut it back to this high level description since I'm not sure what the etiquette of conversations on this forum are yet.

  • Still at Where do I start? by: Desparate-Exhausted 4 years 1 month ago

    Hey Yall, I'm a non, married 40 years to a non-diagnosed, untreated ADHD that in my view is severe. I've been studying books, reading blogs, lurking around here and learning more and more. Ruling out certain "tries" that aren't effective, observing and attempting to keep my sanity. Sometimes I wonder if I have dementia or alzheimers or is the chaos of a marriage partner with this enough to make you doubt your own sanity or cause the massive stress that gives chronic brain fog? ok I'm rambling sorry. My question here now is this: How do I approach the "naming" of these issues i.e. the areas where responsibility is not being taken without causing him to feel emasculated? I know my frustration and anger and areas of unawareness aren't helpful so I'm asking "how" to present things SO THAT they are received outside the ego of a man's identity to be protective, caring and helping for his mate. He KNOWS he's disorganized but has no idea how much time it takes for me to keep things from going devcon 12...I think I need a script cuz I don't have the knowledge or tools as yet to right this sinking ship. I sometimes wonder if I'm not being gas lighted cuz I forget things, he forgets things, who's is first and wtf is going on? Every day, there is mail in the mailbox. He never touches any of it. IRS notices, tax bills, attorney threats, serious stuff......no plan for making sure its not lost. You should see his side of the dining room table with this weeks input all piled up in between food and meds and dirty dishes. I'm losing my mind folks. If I speak to it, my tone is angry, I AM ANGRY!

     

    Desparate and Exhausted

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