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  • And this is why I chose my username... by: bowlofpetunias 5 years 7 months ago

    As you may recall, my wife lost her debit card and then my debit card last week and tried to lie by omission.  There were fraudulent charges made on the lost cards.

    This weekend, I was supposed to take our tax documents to the accountant.  My wife texted the account and me to confirm the address.  The accountant apparently did not look closely enough and confirmed the wrong address.  The accountant also wanted me to leave the documents in her mailbox without ringing the bell to avoid disturbing her family.  I went there and discovered that the address did not exist.  I tried texting to get the right information, but I was not going to leave tax documents in a mailbox that MIGHT be the right one.

    Afterword, my wife texted the accountant and me that she would drop the documents off on Monday.  Monday evening, I received a text message my wife sent to the accountant and me that she had apparently left the documents at work.  I texted my wife separately.  I thanked her for being honest and asked her to be more specific about where she left the documents.  She asked if I was being sarcastic.  I was trying to be more positive and supportive like she has been telling me to be.

    Fortunately, she did find them this morning under a bunch of other things on her desk.  I was very worried that someone, such as the cleaning staff, would find them and we would have a major identity theft problem.

    (Read the signature for the connection to my username.)

  • Even in casual conversations by: repeat that please 5 years 7 months ago

    When you converse with one of us, and in response to something you've said, we begin to work on a task, probably impulsively, it is difficult for us to shift our attention back into an ordinary kind of conversation. This raises the issue of the facets of this disorder. Paying attention involves more than zooming-in on a topic and staying fixed on it, although that's very important, obviously. To interact effectively with our world and the various demands we all face, we must be able to zoom-out at will, too. That's tricky. Even with meds, my brain doesn't like repositioning itself. I want to be all in. If I have to shift my attention constantly, that's tough. I can do it, with meds, but it is difficult. 

    I said all that to say if your ADHDer seems to take off in the middle of having a talk with her, that could be a factor. 

    Also, if we seem inclined to shut you out, remember that we get frustrated too. 1. It isn't fun for anyone to fail repeatedly nor 2. to be reminded of it. Like everyone, we can only handle so much hurt and disappointment. Without meaning to, my SO does a heck of a job bombarding me with a tone in her voice that says, "You big idiot!" We get locked into ways of relating to one another that can be annoying due to years of conditioning. You know? I have to remind myself what hooking up with me was like for her pre-dx. She needs to remember that she doesn't have to tell me the same thing 63,000 times. I occasionally say, "I heard you the first time." (What a treat that is!) 

  • I think by: repeat that please 5 years 7 months ago

    we, ADHDers, expect that much of the time, you can't hear us, either. I suspected that you faked hearing just like I did. Remember when the limo driver caught Elaine hearing?

    So, when I tell you something, I often don't believe you've actually heard me and ergo I won't be held accountable.

    (It is not that I'm purposely being deceptive. It's just simple reality. No one expects anyone to pay attention to them that closely. Everybody is running around uttering stuff, that's all. It's just the way things are. That's my interpretation of life after 40 years of negotiating a world without the ability to pay attention consistently.)

    It's just an innocent assumption. Since I have no clue that there's anything wrong with me, you must "hear" on a hit or miss basis, too. I can toss stuff out there half-kidding or half-serious. Who knows if others will pick up on something? It's all a big game, anyway. If I can't figure out what's going on, how can you? 

  • The greatest of all by: repeat that please 5 years 7 months ago

    "It’s incredibly fulfilling work – I get the honor of helping couples learn to love again and keep their families intact." Ms. Orlov

    Of all things anyone can aspire to and to achieve during his/her lifetime that is of ultimate importance, it is exactly what Ms. Orlov and her team are doing. Children need loving parents who strive together to make a healthy, warm, nurturing environment and everyone needs to love and to be loved. To dedicate one's life to assist families to reestablish loving bonds is the summum bonum. 

  • Debit card fraud by: bowlofpetunias 5 years 7 months ago

    My wife lost her debit card last Thursday.  I was under the impression that she did the right thing and canceled it.

    She borrowed my card on Wednesday.

    Last night, she said that the bank had called about fraudulent charges and that she had to deactivate both cards.  I said that I thought she had canceled the card she lost.  She said that she did not because the bank had adviser her to put a hold on it and not cancel it in case it turned up.  I found this strange.

    So I had a message today about fraudulent charges on my card.  I was puzzled.  Why would they be on my card if her card was lost?  I called her up.  Now she says that she dropped my card and she thought she had told me that.  No, she had not.  Not after she dropped it.  Not after there were fraudulent charges on it.

  • Parallels between academia and life in an ADHD family by: bowlofpetunias 5 years 7 months ago

    As you may know, I taught college for a couple years as a visiting faculty member.  I adjuncted for a few years during grad school, but promised myself I would not be one of those people who continues to adjunct years after they complete their doctorates.

    This is from a recent Chronicle of Higher Education article talking about the toll of adjuncting:

    "The grief of not finding a home in higher ed — of having done everything as well as I was capable of doing, and having it not pan out; of being told over and over how well I was doing and how much my contributions mattered, even as the prize was withheld — consumed more than a decade. It affected my physical health. It affected my mental health. It ended my first marriage. It reopened all my fears from childhood about abandonment and rejection." https://www.chronicle.com/interactives/2019-03-27-childress 

    As I read this, I realized it also described my family life--being told how much I am valued and respected, but not actually being treated with consideration and respect.  Quite often, it is the H in ADHD that prevents family members from being respectful in the moment.  Whatever thought comes into their heads--even if motivated by rage at someone other than the target--has to be said or acted upon right then and there without any further reflection.   This creates incredible conative dissonance when I am told, "Of course we respect you!" 

  • Not sure what to say about hiring a handyman by: DawnG 5 years 7 months ago

    So... we're not even married yet, and I am trying to make sure we don't end up falling apart later when the courtship is over and the toilet breaks...  I can see how this will be challenging at times.  I'm a pragmatist and very linear in thinking, and he's... not.  

    My sweetie can fix anything.  He's brilliant.  But I have already learned that, if he doesn't really enjoy it or isn't challenged by it, he will put it off and put it off... so I feel like my choices under the circumstances are (1) Leave repairs and projects undone, (2) Do them myself if I am able, or (3)  Hire someone.  Unfortunately, he gets offended at the mere suggestion of my doing it or hiring someone.  I'm not trying to be offensive.  I'm just trying to get work done on the house that needs to be done.  I've tried to explain to him that I know he doesn't want to do those things and that he has plenty of other things to worry about (although he is only working part time and I don't relate because I have two jobs and get a lot done at the house - sigh... need to accept him as he is...).  Once he's said he is going to do something he seems to think I should just wait for him to do it and not even suggest helping or getting help. 

    For those of you who have been around this a while, how do I get things done without offending him?

    Thank you!

  • Words vs. Actions by: bowlofpetunias 5 years 7 months ago

    So, last night our couples therapist laid out some "alternative" medical theories, including how not following doctor's advice about ovarian cancer had worked so well for her.  (I brought up the counter example of Bob Marely, who turned to alternative medicine for skin cancer on his foot and wound up dead.)  A lot of this was director toward my needing to stop focussing on negative things and to look for positive things.  

    I explained that it was hard to be positive when I can't depend on anyone and I am constantly afraid that something is going to blow up in my face.  I compared it to a recent bus trip I had (the after a bad therapy session) in which the bus got stuck in traffic and then two other busses crashed right in front of us.  I was trying to be responsible and get to the work-related event on time, but something completely out my control happened and screwed me over.  It felt like a metaphor for my life.  It is hard to look for the positive when a tornado can erupt in our home with no warning.  A few days ago, my wife kept telling me she wanted to have sex.  That night, she got into a throw down fight with our 10 year-old daughter.  Our daughter had a tantrum on our bed and said she would not leave until we listend to her.  I said I was listening.  Oh, but Mom isn't listening.  I asked my wife to listen.  She would then say things that basically amounted to "OK, I will listen to her tell lies."  Our daughter then responded that she would not say her side of the things because her mother was refusing to listen.  Yes, I did not expect her to be honest.  But I thought that listening would help deescalate the situation.  My wife is all about escalating.  Result--no sex.

    The words vs. actions is this.  I have said that I feel unimportant that that the dog is the only member of the family who respects me.  My wife seems to think that saying "Of course we respect you" is the same thing as actually respecting me.  I need to SEE respect in their ACTIONS.

    When I was a teenager, my father (severe ADHD and OCD, BTW), would often lavish praise on how smart I was.  But he treated me like an idiot.  I would tell him over and over again that my car stalled, for example.  Then my sister's friend borrowed the car.  "Oh, he said the car stalls.  Did you notice that?"  Or when he bought this devise to convert a dial tv to remote control.  The channel number did not change when you pressed the remote.  He cleaned the coax cables with alcohol.  I told him that the channel number still did not change.  Well, I must have been wrong because he cleaned the coax connections with alcohol!  I explained that if the coax connections between the remote control box and the tv were the problem, then the channel number would change and the problem would be with the TV, not the converter.  Oh, no, it must not be problem because he cleaned the connections.  I was brilliant in the abstract, but I was an idiot in practice.  All of his telling me how proud he was of my intelligence meant nothing because he treated me like a moron.  My wife telling me that she and the kids respect me and believe that I am important does not mean anything if I am ignored and trested with disrespect.

    The therapsist said that of course our kids think I am important because they look sad when I say something negative.  My wife brought up how our son is so upset because I say "Oh, God" when I get stressed (nstead of yelling and scream like she does.)  BTW, our son said "Oh God" in relation to something our daughter was doing last night.

  • I don't want your help! by: c ur self 5 years 7 months ago

    Is there answers for adults with add/adhd on how to have quality of life, and marriage? Is there answers for any mind types (those who may be spouses to an opposite)  in quality of life? Yes, and Yes.....So what's the problem? LOL....The problems are very clear....1) A person (any person) must be able to SEE their own behaviors and act on them...(# 1 just eliminated a large part of human society) 2) Everyone feels good about themselves, at a level that causes blindness and justification of dysfunctional living.

    So number 2 has many many side effects, that spawn off of our own self love.....One is, it is virtually impossible for a spouse (someone linked by love, lust or emotion) to counsel (give verbal helps, pointing out better quality of life producing habits) another spouse...They can't hear your verbal help attempts, they hear, YOU are broken and insufficient....It would be extremely rare for this to not be the case.....(IMO, and experience...

    But sadly it's the number one reason for failure in relationships, because its the number one go to by hurting spouses...Why? Because their is only two adults effected of course....No one else feels the pain and intrusiveness (abuse) being subjected to one another in the relationship...(you may have a few adult on lookers at best)...Minor children are not responsible, and are always victims to the adults dysfunctional and abusive behaviors, no matter how much we try to justify it, or blame each other...

    So for me, it boils down to a few things.....Recognize my own faults (sins, bad habits, etc..) things that I might be justifying, or worse, blaming my spouse or others for, and work on those things...It takes humility, (being able to see the flesh for what it is) and a desire for righteousness, (how to love and be thoughtful of others, even if I have to remove myself from their presents, due to not being able to find any other way to have peace) that is bigger than my own selfishness....Sound easy??

    Also, I must recognize the assured failure (stress and conflict producing) that will always be the product of my efforts when I ignore ! and 2 above.....People do not want ME or YOU to help them (fix them, to be more acceptable by me, you and others)...So our opinions about their bad habits, lack of responsibility, that their daily living of life might be producing, is their choice (or we should respect it as such, because they alone will have to address it) ...And our opinions concerning change for them, will always be a negative to them....(Be meet w/ defensiveness)....Even when they know we are right about their life styles as it pertains to 2 being 1....

    This is proved out in our daily interactions, but, suffering people, do not always make the wisest of choices....We grasp for what we do have...A voice....But sadly, it's not heard, and we keep repeating ourselves until, one day we realize the futility of our efforts....Then we change....Boundaries, Respect differences, Or go our own way...But change, abandon what has never worked....

    c

  • No idea what's fair by: NerdyMom 5 years 7 months ago

    I have posted here before but it was a while ago.  My husband has been out of work for over 2 years, acting as a SAHD currently and trying to get on a useful treatment plan.  There are a number of problems:

    1--I'm disabled but working full time and I am the main breadwinner.  The stress of our financial situation is making it hard for me to keep working full time while dealing with my health struggles but there's a limited amount I can do to help with my stress that wouldn't further strain the budget (such as cut hours or take leave).

    2--He struggles to both care for our 4 year old to an appropriate standard and keep the home.  When we both worked, we would get paid help with that because I can't do a lot, which we have had to pare way back (but still can't do without completely which strains the budget).

    3--He has the ability to make money with flexible hours (not GOOD money), but I struggle to single parent while doing stuff like cooking dinner.  I have a very limited number of "spoons" (MS-related fatigue limits my available energy).  I've asked him to make sure there's something I can easily heat up always available but that doesn't always happen.  Sometimes I'm so tired he can't work in the hours that he normally could because things hare not been set up for me to succeed.

    4--We can't afford childcare to allow him to work without a job that makes a decent amount first (childcare costs are HIGH in our area and spots hard to obtain).  Our son attends preschool 3 afternoons a week currently.  I don't feel my husband is using this time effectively to work/look for work/get things done at home while he's not having to parent.

    5--I don't believe his team (therapist and psych) are helping him as much as they could be nor ar they "experts" on ADD which he needs because he needs MAJOR help with coming up with tools, strategies, scaffolding and accommodations to help him succeed.  He needs to work aggressively towards a workable treatment plan.  We can't afford a "coach" although that's what he probably needs.

    I want to try to address all these issues but I don't know what's fair.  I am unwilling to micromanage his life, and besides I do not have the energy for that.  I already spend too much time worrying and assisting him during the day when I'm supposed to be working.  I'm not a fan of "ultimatums" which usually damage the relationship.  But things *must* get better and sooner rather than later if we don't want to lose our house.  Also, having specific goals would probably be helpful to him.  He hasn't been able to clearly tell me what I could do to help give him some "scaffolding" and he's often resistant to what I'm able to research and suggest that we might try.  I want to add in some accountability here.

    Is it fair to give him deadlines for addressing some of my items?  Such as "Starting April 1 we need to designate the nights you are working and all of those nights you need to have something prepared for me to heat for dinner as we agreed".  Or,"Starting April 15 you need get some hours in 3 days a week/you need to work at least 8 hours a week/whatever we agree on".  I feel like this is parenting him to a certain extent and I don't love it as a solution but without accountability his working hours have been erratic in the extreme and are always getting disrupted by something.

    I am ready for any honest comments especially from anyone in a similar spot.  My disability and being overwhelmed/stressed/fatigued means I really CAN'T overfunction to compensate for him but I think that's led me to a place where I am making WAY too many allowances and it's eventually going to get us into a desperate spot financially.  I acknowledge that I've likely done things to contribute to the situation so I'm not looking for sympathy as much as real talk and guidance as far as what's FAIR for me to do to start expecting accountability, improvement and getting us on the right track.

    Thanks for reading and for thoughtful comments.

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