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  • THE END OF MY ROPE OR THE BEGINNING OF ANOTHER by: ADHD Spouse w ADHD 6 years 4 months ago

    Hi, I am new here. I have been reading the blogs and feeling a strange comfort in knowing that other people are facing some of the same problems that my wife and I are facing.

    First a little background.  I met my wife four years ago and fell deeply, madly and very quickly in love. (like most add people do) We got married, bought a house and now have two children.  It all happened very fast.

    Throughout the short courtship, I noticed quirks about her personality that made me wonder about her organization and prioritizing skills.  She was quick to make assumptions about other people and to shift blame away from herself onto the nearest object.

    I soon became that object.

    At first, I thought there were things about my person I had to change.  I had to cut out some bad habits, pay attention more to my surroundings and take better care of the things I own and care for.  And these are things that I am still working on.  In my quest to change behaviors to save the new relationship I stumbled upon the fact that I may have undiagnosed ADD.  I also learned that my wife displays a lot more of the traits of severe add than I do.  Somehow along the way I have been able to control my ADD by becoming an organizer (personally and professionally) I forced myself to be accountable to my choices and also understood that my choices affect other people’s lives, and I have to take into mind other people before making life choices.

    My wife has not reached this point.  She is still in denial about having ADD.  

    ANGER ISSUES

    She is extremely emotional and angry and her anger is displayed in grossly offensive language about me, my family and anything she believes I hold dear.

    Although after hours of arguments and finger pointing she will admit that she needs help and has an anger issue.  If we talk about the same subject the next day she tells me that she would not be so angry if I didn’t piss her off so much.

    She is quick to offend and even quicker to forget she offended and wondering why you are pissed off.

    FINANCIAL ISSUES

    This is where I first noticed the serious lack of focus.   She attempts to run a business and has had a business license for over 8 years.  When I met her I thought this was a sure sign of responsibility, until I got to know her and saw how she is running her business.  

    Two major issues:

    • She gives treatment but doesn't collect money.
      • It is a common occurrence for us to receive a handwritten letter with a check stating “I hope this is how much I owe you. Tried calling and emailing but no answer”
    • She sets appointments and forgets
      • Clients of hers spend 30-45 minutes regularly waiting for her to arrive, that is if she hasn’t already canceled on them.

    When I realized how disorganized and irresponsible she was treating her clients and her business, I stepped in and tried to help.  I helped her organize a business plan, set a website up, automatic emails and provided her with a tracking system to keep track of her appointments.

    I also took out a business loan in my name to help her cover some of the expenses of the business. (I know, I know.. but a fool in love)

    Fast forward three years.  She never implemented anything I gave and I have defaulted on the loan because she did not repay me.

    The latter part did cause a lot of resentment from me.  I could not understand how a person could take money from someone they loved, tell them they would pay them back.  Then, when it was time to pay the monthly installments start fights over how I demand money from her.

    Those fights were monthly, she never paid. Until I defaulted on that loan and some other credit cards I was using for her business and home goods.

    Of course, her opinion is that I defaulted on those credit cards and that loan because I overspent and used my money poorly.  It had nothing to do with her breaking her word.

    Until this day her reason for not paying that loan was that she believed that I “had it covered” Even though I told her very clearly that I did not.  I told her in conversation, written in letter form, I even took her for a very slow walk around the block before we got married explaining to her our finances and my need for help before I went under water.

    I went underwater.

    Its ok though, everything is a learning lesson and I learned to not overextend myself emotionally and financially.

    Before the birth of our daughter, she saved up several thousand dollars.  She informed me that this money was going to help her pay for her car, insurance, and rental property bills.

    She makes most of her money through a rental property on AirBNB.  Her responsibility for this property is mainly paying the mortgage and utility bills, making sure the listing is rented and cleaned by a housekeeper.

    She manages to accomplish these goals (with the help of her mom) But this distraction is so important to her she took all her savings and set it aside for an upcoming mortgage balloon payment and remodel.  She has become fixated on the possible future value of the property and has deprioritized paying for her bills.

    But wait there’s more.

    Since the birth of our last child in April she has been able to stay at home without working.   I can pay the mortgage, utilities and basic goods.

    Now she is telling me she cannot pay for her end because she doesn’t have any money.  She won’t admit that she is saving up her money to remodel and use her rental property and her business location.

    When I bring it up to her, she tells me that I “play” in stocks.  When I inform her that I have that money available to spend for our family when needed, she moves on to the next point of assault.

    I know being a mother is extremely difficult, i believe there is such a thing as a 4th trimester, but my wife has had these problems since before the children, they have doubled upon themselves with the addition of more responsibility. 

    KEEPING HER WORD

    Which brings me to the most important issue that I have, and what has brought me to this site.   My wife cannot keep her word.  I want to give her the benefit of the doubt and think that she has severe undiagnosed ADD. The alternative would be that she is purposefully using me for financial stability and an emotional punching bag.

    In anger, she called me a psychopath, sociopath, gaslighter, verbal abuser a bad husband, bad father and an overall bad man.

    The words don’t hurt like they used to.. but now I am wondering how far her projection goes.

    We are in counseling, but I am pretty sure she needs individual therapy to get past traumas.

    I don’t trust her and I am very sad about it. No matter how hard I try.  It is never enough. 

  • Flirting with children by: jennalemone 6 years 4 months ago

    The most maddening aspect of H's behavior is when one of our granddaughters is here.  I don't know what to do about it.  H and her "get cozy", touching arms and touching heads and leaning in to smile and laugh together.  Granddaughter likes the special attention but a 11 years old does not know about sex and men.  H is impulsive and thinks of himself as sexy and personable.  He is nearly 70 years old and flirts with anyone and everyone - it gets very embarassing to me when I am with him and he encrouches on his targets while I stand there with arms crossed. It is his personality.  His family is inappropriate in this way.  Young girls and uncles seem to share in potty words and curse words and it is soooo uncomfortable to me.  Anyway, with this granddaughter being such an impressionable age, I need to find some model of what my response should be for her safety.  H gets inappropriate and talking to him about it does not good...only fuels his anger at me.  What words can I say to granddaughter to teach her about men and flirting at such a young age to keep her safe.  Her mother is not a part of our lives anymore.

  • Holidays by: PoisonIvy 6 years 4 months ago

    I do fine on most holidays:  Christmas (a little weird not doing it as a full family but I and at least one daughter always see my side of the family), Thanksgiving (the last time I saw my former parents-in-law was Thanksgiving 2009, when my FIL was cruel to me and refused to apologize, after lying about what he did), Easter (I'm not religious), and either Mother's Day (I was and continue to be a good mother and my daughters usually call me).  But Father's Day depresses me, because it reminds me that my ex dumped me and neglected our daughters so that he could take care of his parents, his dad treated me poorly, and my own father, who was far from perfect, still was a much better man than my ex or his dad.

    How do you feel about Father's Day and other holidays?

  • Emotional dumping ground by: Hopeful Heart 6 years 4 months ago

    i seem to give off some kind of energy that makes people want to unload their problems on me. When I was growing up, my mother inappropriately shared problems with me. She complained nonstop about how much she hated her parents. After I got married, my MIL did the something very similar. Except my MIL complained a lot about how much she disliked being a mother and a grandmother. Really inappropriate stuff!!  People that I barely know will confide in me and tell me shocking stories about themselves. One time I Got a massage and the lady giving me the massage spent the entire 60 minutes telling me how much she disliked her clients. Again, so inappropriate! By the time the massage was over, i could barely move my neck because I was so stressed from taking in all of her negative energy. Big waste of money for the massage!!

    I’m just curious if any of the other non ADHD spouses give off this same kind of energy. I would really like to learn how to change this dynamic. 

  • Sorry it might be a boring question..are ADHD and cheating related?? by: peachy123 6 years 4 months ago

    hi, I'm very new to this site. I have a boyfriend who I found out from our couples therapist that he has ADHD a year ago. I read about ADHD and now understand why I was always angry at him about small things and he seemed to not care about me and our little boy safety. I.e leaving the house door wide open when he went out in the evening while I was sick in bed with a breastfeeding 6 months old and drive recklessly with our child in the car. You know all the crazy little and big things that ADHD people do. Recently, I found out that he has been having an affair. I havent address it to him (yet) and he still doesn't know that I know. He is still in touch with her and planning on seeing each other again as she lives abroad.  I have been seeing our therapist on my own about all of this and he told me to not say anything yet. He said my bf will get bored of this new toy and therapist said she isn't the only one my bf is playing around with. And I know also that she isn't the only one as I saw messages from another girl popped up quite often saying how she misses him. I try not to read everything as they hurt my feelings but I look briefly to keep my finger on the pulse to see if they r flings or more or how long is it going to last.

    My question is are they related? ADHD and infidelity?? I read melissa's book but doesn't say much about affairs and online has mixed info of yes and no mostly nos. I also think my bf has narcisstic personality disorder like his father. The thing is I don't want my therapist or myself to give him an excuse to have an affair because he has ADHD. I'm still thinking whether to leave or stay. I'm not sure how long I can play calm and cool for. I have a little 2 year old with him who loves his dad very much and he is also a good father, as good as an ADHD can be and works very hard. I could put up with all of his dirtiness, scattiness, forgetfulness but affairs I'm finding it hard to cope. At the beginning of the affair he had been going around telling some of his close friends how much he loves her and wants to explore her. And then expect it to be hush hush. I just couldn't get my head around it all as to why he does this! 

  • She totaled the minivan. by: bowlofpetunias 6 years 4 months ago

    My wife called while I was dropping our daughter off at school yesterday.  She said she got into an accident.  Her explanation was that she tried to stop a a stop sign but her foot slipped.  Our 15-year-old ADHD son was with her.  His version is that she did stop at the sign but then went through the intersection without seeing the other car, with him yelling at her to stop.  After she hit the other guy, she got out and left it in gear.  The van went up  on the sidewalk and hit a stop sign before she could stop it.

    She t-boned a smaller car.  The front of the minivan was smashed up with visible cracks in one of the fluid tanks.  The driver side was all scratched up and she could not get the driver's door to open again.  The fire department had to come and cut the driver's door off of the car she hit.

    I have frequently been scared by my wife's driving and how her ADHD symptoms manifest in driving.  She frequently stops watching the road to look at me while she is talking.  I have recently had to yell at her after she started up after a stop sign and did not notice oncoming vehicles.  One time, we were going to a movie and she missed a left turn.  Without thinking, she impulsively did a U-turn on a busy street with traffic islands.  (Keep in mind that she has sometimes been hypercritical of my driving.)

    And, of course, she has yet to discuss ADHD symptoms with her psychiatrists.  ("She didn't ask about those things!  I only answered her questions!") She sees the psychiatrist for anger issues.  Her next appointment is in August.

    I stayed home the rest of the day.  First, I took them to the ER to get checked out.  Our son argued that he did not want to go.  They said she had whiplash and gave her a prescription.  I went to fill it while she rested.  Our daughter's school called and i had to pick her up and take her to the doctor.  Then we cleaned out the car and I dealt with the paperwork with the police.  Finally, I had to take her to get a rental car.

    The process of cleaning out the van brought up to other memories for me.  First, it was the first thing we purchased with my inheritance from my parents.  Second, it reminded me of the time when another car was repossessed--we had declared bankruptcy, and the bank pounced on the opportunity to repossess it when she missed one payment.  I had been away on business, and she melted down and demanded I come home immediately.

    There is one bright side to this.  The van was registered in my name, which meant that I got blamed for her parking tickets.  One time, she repeatedly promised she would pay a ticket.  Then I got a notice that my license was suspended for failure to pay the ticket.  Another time, I only found out about a ticket when I found a letter threatening to suspend my license while I was cleaning through the huge pile of clutter on the dining room table.  (I paid it online ASAP!)  Assuming that the replacement van is registered in her name, I won't get blamed for parking her tickets and my license will be safe.

  • Left ADHD Boyfriend - Please Help by: tulips2 6 years 4 months ago

    Hi all, 

    I'm new here and seeking advice from others who have been or are in a relationship with someone with ADHD. I'll try to condense this! I was with my ex boyfriend for about 15 months. It truly seemed like a lifetime and I thought he was the one. (I'm 29 and have been in several long-term relationships, my longest was 6 years. I haven't really been single since I was about 16, and when I was, it was for a couple of months. Part of this likely has to do with dysfunctional parents growing up and having to assume the role of an adult in a lot of instances....)

    Back to the ex, I started noticing ADHD behaviors from the start, but kinda shoved them under the rug. I never actually realized ADHD was a thing until I started dating him, it wasn't until we were months into the relationship I had asked him if he was ever diagnosed. He admitted he had been in high school, but the meds made him tired so his parents took him off of them and did not pursue further therapy/meds. Ex is 30 years old and when we broke up I gave him a month to move out. That ended up turning into a month and a week since he didn't have everything lined up. Ex has been reaching out to me via text and other social media apps. I explained recently we needed to limit contact as it wasn't healthy for either one of us. Ex was very sad and said I was his best friend and he didn't like where this was all headed. 

    The reason I decided to leave was because of the forgetfulness (some dangerous situations unintentionally occurred while dating him such as catching the grill on fire, leaving car on while garage door was down...), inability to understand social cues (would talk excessively to the point people would tune completely out), inability to follow through (would tell me something, but then forget about it, and wouldn't follow through unless I constantly reminded), family issues (his immediate family had some dysfunction that made me run)...so, my anxiety spiked and I was in a constant state of wondering if something was going to go wrong. Ex is not on medicine and only started to see a therapist after I urged him to do so, or I couldn't be with him. However, he was extremely loving, communicative, had a sense of humor, fun and spontaneous and we enjoyed going on weekend getaways together. We never fought and were both always able to express how we felt maturely. I will miss this immensely about him....

    Ex also has history of jumping from one job to another and is very self-loathing and hard on himself. I was told by several of his family members I was the best thing to ever happen to him, he even told me I am the only girl whose cared enough to help him and he still thinks I'm the love of his life. I tried to stick it out and have been ruminating for over 6 months. I saw a therapist 3 times to get outside opinions and all I got out of that was, "you are young, you sound like these incompatibilities are deal breakers for you, and if you're this stressed and anxious you should consider a break from the relationship...) We definitely had a connection I can't describe, I truly did and do love him, but, I felt like I was taking care of him. Not in an extreme sense, but for his emotional well-being. I started to become depressed and like noted previously, my anxiety soared. I started to become isolated because I was embarrassed to go out with him, and we were never invited out to do things by any of his connections other than his family occasionally. Although I'm unsure if I'll ever have kids, I was scared that adding a child to the mix with him would be overwhelming. I started to become scared at the thought of marriage. 

    When we split up, I gave him a month to move out of my home, and when he moved out, he was still messaging me daily. We were and are amicable so it wasn't a surprise. I eventually had to tell him we needed to limit communication for our mental health. He was very sad and said I was his best friend and he didn't want to lose our connection. He has been removed from my FaceBook but still remains on other social media platforms, 

    SO. I'm reaching out to others who have experienced this since I don't have any friends who have. I don't know anyone in my life who has been in this kind of situation, where you have a great connection with someone, but feel like you're going crazy. Do any of you find yourself in a similar situation? I feel really low right now because I don't want to seem like I'm being too picky with my relationships, but I definitely wasn't feeling like my best-self with him. I think the hardest part is that we DO have so much in common and he would never cheat on me or hurt me. I'm also very unhappy with my career currently and having more or less a mid-life crisis. I don't know where I want to go or what my calling truly is or how to pursue it at the moment, so I feel like a mixture of different things going on is making me really sad. He had an appointment with a therapist to talk about medicine but canceled it after I broke up with him. I asked him why and he said because he had too much going on. Yes, that's true, because he started a new job, but, it made me think he was only interested in medicine because of ME. I want him to do it for him. 

    If anyone can please offer support and advice I would love to connect either through this forum or via email! 


    Thank you!

  • ADHD by: Anonymous (not verified) 6 years 5 months ago
  • Companionship by: Libby 6 years 5 months ago

    I woke up this morning feeing so deeply lonely in my marriage. One of the purposes of marriage is to have a companion through lifes ups and downs. Someone to share experiences with. I would so love to go on a vacation this summer. I have the choice of going alone or taking my DH along. Either option is sad and lonely. 

  • I think YOU have an anger problem by: gracieinnh 6 years 5 months ago

    Please shut up, pay attention and don't do anything.

    You'd think that was the ADHD spouse but it's the ADDer himself wanting attention. We had a huge fight over ... umm what does it matter, I wanted this and he wanted that.. and he pushed, boxed in, bullied until I blew up. He says he has a few of the symptoms but no big deal. 

    But the corker is this.... this morning in his best most soothing unctuous voice ..

     I get the.... "You've changed and I think you need some help speech. I care about you. We need to call a psychologist or doctor for you to help you deal with Your anger.

    Mr. Can't see his own behavior, is all calm and supportive, like an actor in a play. And seeing me wave my arms at him and phony baloney egoic persona doing a strategic move for self-preservation.   Ooo- lala What a performance. 

    Now, I do blow up, and I am getting more tired, more exasperated faster, less understanding, less patient, more in your face and up your nose confrontational but it's been 37 years. 

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