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  • The True Cost Adults With ADHD Pay by: lineman1010 9 years 1 month ago

    I'm not talking about $$$.

    I'll start with TIME ....being diagnosed a few months ago and being 45.Yes very late in life, which I believe I can write about the cost of having ADHD as an adult.  I have spent alot of time reading and asking many questions about my disorder. Which has also made me think of all the wasted time in my life. The countless missed opportunities I could have capitalized on if I were more attentive especially to the ones I hold close to me.....my own lil family.

    I will never get that back ....ever. 

    My wife hurting her self-esteem in ways that I could not imagine, this is the woman I LOVE with all my heart .To be upset with her because I blame her for so much.......No.....I am upset with ME .....had I known about my disorder in time I know I wouldn't have hurt our relationship as I had done. I would have gotten control of my behaviors through meds and therapy alot sooner than a few months ago. As with any marriage we went up and down. Looking back a vast portion could have been easily talked out.....but I couldn't because I have very very poor communication skills this I've always known but not why until now. The thoughts racing through my head telling my mouth what say was at best gibberish. Then a question is asked an when I am trying to answer I stammer trying to piece a coherent answer together , I am darn near automatically lying. Especially when memory recall is all jumbled up. I have hearing loss as well which never helps because I am being told that I'm not listening . Often I hear most of what is being said but missing parts of the conversation I get confused or misinterpreted what is being said.Then as most know it usually doesn't get better but worse. I know if I had a mediator or someone to interpret actually what I am saying our relationship would be alot better. Alas , there is none so the situation gets worse over time because nothing is ever really settled.I see and hear the frustration from both sides and when it's done I walk away more hurt and feeling very inadequate. I believe she feels the same . 

    Withdrawing from everyone at home another waste of time.

    Over the last couple months I have had issues at work, chronically late, not paying attention, and not understanding directions. I have a very dangerous job as a high voltage lineman on a government base. I was given ultimatums that if I keep making mistakes I would lose my position. We are not wealthy by no means , we almost live paycheck to paycheck.

    We both work, since 2011 I have had 5 jobs , i was fired from 2 and quit 2 , holding on to this one. So I am constantly fearful of losing this one. With that I had really stay on my GAME atleast till someone else screwed up. That took ALL my energy mentally and physically to do. I try to keep work at work and home at home but I couldn't. I did tell her about an altercation between myself and a coworker. Not a big deal just being put down and teased but I handled it in my opinion well. We both walked away better friends for it. There's another issue involving work.....clearances . I was instructed that i needed to go further into explanation of my credit and criminal history. No big deal about the criminal part . Except something that I did when i was 18 . Not bad....I did tell my wife about but I had forgotten some of it and didn't tell her, when she read what it was She accused me of lying. I never lied to her or anyone about it . it turned out to actually be wrong which i had to explain . Sorry got to back up a couple days ....she called me at work and asked if there was something i needed to tell her? 

    I answered about what? She said i knew. I said about what ?

    Then she said I knew and if i didn't want her to know than so be it. Later I found out it was about my incident when I was 18. Told her the truth and she told me I was a liar, of course i got upset and contacted my stepmother to reinforce my side because she was there 25 years ago and still had all the paperwork. That got my wife even more pissed. Thinking me and my stepmother was against her. When in reality all i was doing was trying to prove i wasn't lying. ( which if you read my comment about ADD ers lying you'll get a better picture of why this particular behavior is a HUGE one). All the while having those issues at work and home ......I withdrew to silence and avoidance from her. Only as a way to keep me from going out of my mind. Even with meds my mind still feels like I'm going a 100 mph at night with no lights and in a hurricane. 

    She left me 3 weeks ago . I feel abandoned and ashamed , hurt, and alone. I regret not chasing after her and just letting her walk away but if I did I felt it would just make it worse. Because I definitely was in no mental shape to try. I LOVE HER WITH ALL MY HEART AND I AM STILL IN LOVE WITH HER.

    She knew that i was having med issues trying to get the pdoc to change them , which appt is next week and finding a therapist to help but that's slow too( got one tomorrow can't wait ) took 3 weeks to get one that is ADD adult and relationship certified. I asked her to ask her therapist to see both but they thought it best that i didn't join them. Nor did she ask for a referral to one. REALLY .....I plainly was asking for help and I got nothing. That's why I'm on the internet, youtube and reading books . and in forums looking for help and educating myself on the effects of ADD in a marriage.

    More wasted TIME. I was told many times to take care of me and she'll take care of her. It's my issue( problem ) not hers, 

    I have hearing that for months . I know that I've not been as attentive to anyone lately but I do not get the whole abandoning thing. Especially as we both found out the root cause of so many symptoms. She has her own mental disorders that I will not mention due to the fact that I accept her as she is. Not using that as an excuse to justify myself in an way SHAPE ,FORM or FASHION. Waste of time again to try to do it. It's ME all me and I take credit and responsibility for how our relationship is broken. She has tried to support and encourage me alot. Low energy, sex drive, and sleep apnea.....which now I understand to be side symptoms of my disorder. So we were trying to fix me but it comes out that all them were overlaying symptoms of my ADD also. So I once again have to take full responsibility for my actions . 

    Like I keep saying a lot of wasted TIME.  I don't blame her for leaving the situation. I truly do not. I hope and pray that we can reconcile our relationship. I know the person she is .  If i could only get her to accompany me to therapy I believe it would shed alot of light on both of our behaviors. 

    Well there you go ....i put it out there. So please if you agree or disagree all your comments and suggestions will be accepted with an open mind and heart. I do this to help me .....SO PLEASE HELP this man that doesn't have much TIME to waste.

    Thank you for reading,

     

     

     

     

  • Help by: Anemptyshell 9 years 1 month ago

    Hi,

    my partner and I have been together for 3 years, we have been through meth addiction (him) and come out the other side in the beginning, it was about 12 months ago I was still having issues with him saying things and not doing them and some were little and some were big, I was constantly feeling not respected, loved etc.    I was speaking to his mother one day telling her all my woes when she blurted " maybe he is ADHD" this didn't mean much to me at the time, however I went away and did some googling, and read stories that sounded so much like my life, I sent some of the links to my partner and be too recognised these things in himself, he was amazed.

     

    this is where I made my biggest mistake, I didn't push him to see a doctor and get a real diagnosis and treatment, and here I am after 10 great months, having just found out a few days ago, that he took $6500 out of our loan account for renovations for cocaine,  he works away 8 weeks on 4 off, this is why I didn't notice, he was away, he was faced with no job, and some where in his disfunctional brain he decided taking cocaine would help him perform better and secure a new contract, but it obviously got out of control.  

     

    I didnt notice the money, as sadly for me 3 weeks prior to him using, he proposed to me, and financed the ring, I asked him to pay it off from the loan account so there was only one debt, and that's why he was able to go 8 weeks with out me noticing, it was only that my intuition told me I needed to look at the accounts that I noticed.

    now I am a mess and he's having a pity party.

    he is aware he needs help and I am going to make sure he sees a doctor and gets a refferal to a psyc.

    i guess what I want to know is if mesdicated, he can't have stimulant meds, he has a heart condition and clearly sufferers with drugs use problems,  but I am wondering how much the medication actually helps?

    Will I always feel like he is emotionally retarded? Will I have to live my life always feeling like I am on edge, and expecting to be disappointed? 

    I accept that he may have this and things will never be 'perfect' 

    but just silly stuff like rushing to buy me gifts that I hate and having to pretend to like them? The broken promises and tendency to lies, does it ever get better or can I expect my life to be a constant battle?

    Needless to say the lies about drugs and the money going toward my ring, I have taken the ring off and no longer can look at it, as it just is a big fat drug,lie horrid thing to me now.

    these are all things he doesn't seem to 'get' how now that ring is just horrible to me cause he used it as a lie! 

     

    More than frustrated, any advice, info appreciated. 

  • Woman with ADD and husband wants divorce by: womanwithadd 9 years 1 month ago

    Hello Everyone. I was diagnosed with ADD when I was 14 years old (currently I am 28). I stopped medication when I was 22 years old. I was doing well in college and had good friendships. However my grades were better in my junior and senior years of college and graduate school. Now I realize I was doing well because those with ADD can concentrate well on things they find interesting. So these classes i was in were directly related to my desired job one day. I had even thought that I may had been diagnosed at age 14 as there was alot of instability in my home life at the time.  Last year I got married and after being married for less than a year my husband has left. In stepping back and  doing more research I have realized more that ADD is a behavioral disorder as well and fully believe I do have this disorder. My husband says he does not care and that he wants to divorce me. He is upset I didn't tell him in more detail about me having this. I didn't think I had it anymore and did over dinner one night briefly say I was on medication for ADD in the past. However with not taking it for years it simply did not seem important for me to share as it can be overdiagnosed as well. I did not have too much in depth knowledge about ADD. He says I took his future away from him. I have started treatment for this again, am seeing my own counselor,  have offered counseling for us and said seperation for however long is alright with me. My husband has already sent me divorce papers. Any suggestions? 

  • New member by: Mayana 9 years 1 month ago

    Okay, so I really don't have time to be on the internet right now (because the world would stop breathing if I forgot to remind it to), and nothing upsets me more than people who spend hours on the internet when they have plenty of grownup things to do (okay, maybe a few things upset me more, but that's up there).  I have never felt such a pull to join an online community before, though, so I'd like to offer a big hello.  I just read ADHD and Marriage last night... couldn't put it down, though tears were streaming down my cheeks throughout most of it.  I'm sure I will vent further details eventually, but by way of introduction, I have been married for 15 years to a man who spent his childhood on Ritalin and ditched it (and a belief in ADHD) the first chance he got when he was out of school.  We have three daughters who I worry about every day, knowing that over the years I have inadvertantly taught them what it is "okay" to put up with in a marriage.  I almost feel like I have an obligation to leave, just so they have a better chance at healthy relationships in their own lives.  Yet -- here I am. 

    We've had a very interesting past six months or so, and I was definitely ripe to run across this book (and community) when I did. 

  • Prevention Better Than Cure! by: Mr. Ellis Green 9 years 1 month ago

    Hello there! 

    This is my first time for commenting on this site and after months of reading other people's comments it seems only fair and proper that I put my penny's worth in! First I must say that Melissa and Dr. Hallowell have shown great patience and understanding in all the help and advice they've given, as well as their time. I'm sure there are plenty of us out there that really appreciate their efforts and long may they continue to do so! And then there are those who have been brave enough to "bare their souls" on here by relating the issues they've all faced. Well done! It's not easy to tell total strangers the problems that some of us face on a daily basis, not knowing if anybody listens or takes us seriously as this is such a delicate subject, especially with some people being more sensitive than others. 

    Well maybe its my turn to bare my soul. It has taken me a long time to pluck up the nerve to come here and say my piece. I suppose the best place to start is the beginning; I was born in 1958 so I grew up in the '60s. Back then here in UK there was certainly no knowledge of ADHD. So when I was running all over the place creating all kinds of mayhem, hardly sleeping even as a baby, and getting into fights at school and other behavioural problems and nobody understood why, including my parents, I was told by my Doctor that I was hyperactive and my Mum advised not to let me drink orange squash (which I hate anyway) and my teachers viewed me as a "problem child" - thanks a lot! Throughout my teens despite having the craziest sense of humour possible, I also had a real nasty temper. I won't bore anyone with too much detail, but after getting married at 24 and then as time went by I fathered 3 kids. I've loved my kids and always will, but although we had a lot of fun there were a lot of times that I blew my top simply because I couldn't cope with the responsibility of parenthood. I've never handled responsibility well, and get hopelessly frustrated . I NEVER hit my wife (now ex) or my kids in anger, instead I would lash out and punch the walls, kick the furniture, throw things, and of course this would scare people. In my 30's I decided to get anger management and through one of the courses I was told about ADHD. I saw my Doctor who sent me to a therapist who in turn diagnosed me as ADHD and I got a book all about it; how it affects kids and adults alike who have it, and reading this book was like reading my life story! 

    My next problem was that I was too proud and arrogant to really take the whole thing seriously. I used to think: "if that's how I am then its not my problem its other people's if they can't cut me some slack". Stupid really! Of course it was my problem but as I've already said, male pride got in the way. Eventually after 22 years of marriage my ex divorced me for "unreasonable behaviour". I don't blame her really as I should and could have done something about it if only I could have seen how it was REALLY affecting my kids. I've been divorced now for 10 years, no romance in that time, and although life is too short for regrets I do have 2 - watching my parents die and being a lousy father. During the last 10 years I've had a heart attack that left me with unstable angina, but surprisingly the hyperactivity has settled since the attack. ADHD runs through my Dad's side of the family whereas heart disease runs through both sides. 

    So everyone who has ADHD please do whatever it takes to get treated for this condition as quickly as you can, especially if you're married otherwise you could find your partner showing you the door as it is not easy living with ADHD or living with someone that has it. So be patient, get ALL the help you can as nothing hurts more than knowing you could have done something earlier in life as long as pride doesn't get in the way, and also knowing that your grown-up kids want nothing to do with you anymore. That sucks! But we reap what we sow I suppose, so please consult your doctor if necessary, may Melissa and Co. keep this site going as its so nice to know you're NOT the only one having to live with this thing. I'm better now but it cost me a lot domestically along the way!

    Mr. Ellis Green

  • Road blocked by: skaterone12 9 years 1 month ago

    We've known about the ADHD for several months now.  His biggest attempt in the matter is to "try harder" "do better" and "not treat me this way".  But as a result, we wrap around to the same issues, the same destructive patterns and the same hurt and painful feelings.  How much longer do I hold on?  What options do I have?  We are in the midst of rock bottom once again.  I am raw with hurt and pain from neglect, abandonment, broken promises and being taken for granted moment after moment that I can see leaving as the only alternative.  I do see the pain in his eyes.  I see that he is hurting too, that perhaps he is "trying his best" but is just spinning his wheels.  I have been kind.  I have been patient.  I have been hopeful.  But I can't force the medication, the counseling or the treatment.  It's lonely, it's just shy of abusive and I am not seeing a way to "calm down" and work this time through.  The hopelessness is overwhelming and I feel at this time I would be much less lonely if I were alone, rather than in a roommate situation.

    Has anyone been this far down, and come back up again - when you aren't in control of the ADHD and their behavior, treatment or otherwise?  Any suggestions would be helpful.

  • Denial..."I'm OK...There's Nothing Wrong With Me" by: kellyj 9 years 1 month ago

    I'm taking some time off from the forum to tend to other things for a while.  My wife and I have reached a point where we are now communicating well including )but certainly not limited too) topics involving areas where we run into conflicts.  This is in a large part due to me learning more about denial and other defense mechanisms and how it effects not only communicating with another person but memory itself.  This is NOT exclusive to ADHD by the way...but I think for a person who falls into the category of being so much in denial that these defenses and means for self protection ( of the ego and for self esteem ) that they have become a  chronic pattern/problem in their lives......we (poeple with ADHD) are probably more likely to have some problems in this area.

    Basing this on myself as just one example......if all you hear is criticism and your own experiences growing up and throughout your life are negative when it concerns some of the things that are most affected by ADHD ( forgetfulness and absent mindedness, organization, consistency, getting started and staying on track as just a few examples)....there comes a point in time especially when you are older and are still experiencing some of the same issues you had (or ones you might would attribute to ) a much younger person or a child. Think about this in terms of yourself if you knew this was happening but yet try as you might to overcome these things....nothing you do seems to correct them or make them any better over time. In my case....I knew nothing about ADHD and by default...you learn other strategies to get around these problems and the first and easiest way to do this is by becoming defensive and self protective.  The key words to remember here are criticism, negativity, hostility, anger, judgment, shunning and put downs.  In my own personal arsenal of information and self awareness.....I have had to stay on top of  this part of myself all the time in order to watch for the times when any of my old patterns of thinking and communicating rear their ugly heads including a few that I have yet to pin down.  Without hesitation......I know they're there whether I see them or not.  That's the process of elimination and self awareness I have been on for over a decade and despite feeling comfortable in saying that I am no longer in denial....that doesn't mean the the old patterns and habits are not still with me.  It takes a lot of effort and self control to pay attention enough to find all the ways that we humans use as a defense for our self esteem.  The most difficult part about doing this is that your self esteem is going to take some hits during this process. 

    In other words...without the denial and defense mechanisms that are used to bolster of maintain a certain level of self esteem (or to try to keep what's left still intact).....you are left wide open to experience the reality of your situation and if you your situation is bad to begin with.....all that's left is self protection and defense to counter what you perceive from other people at times.  Even if you aren't hypersensitive and your self esteem is doing alright in general......you still get tired of it.  As tired as other people get of the things that we do that affect them negatively as well.  This is the cycle that has to be broken for anything to change and if the person who is in defensive mode 24/7 whether it be legitimate or self imposed....that leaves you the person who is not in defensive mode to something to change this dynamic.  The hardest part on either side is when both people are operating in self protection mode at the same time.  If that's the case and neither person can see what is happening.....my bet is that this is why you are reading this right now because you are struggling to find some way to stop this horrible dynamic. 

    Speaking again for myself here to give you some insight.....in all of my past relationships as a whole....the problems may have started on the side of the people who were with me (becoming frustrated or annoyed with my ADHD once they were with me long enough) but during this initial time and being in denial as it was.....I was fine until it ramped up to the point it started mimicking my past or resurrecting my childhood traumas growing up. When that began to happen each time.....this is where the trouble would begin.......that is with the exception of my wife now.  I had a fighting chance and a lot of experience behind me to tell me what I should and should not do despite my history and my internal pulls in the wrong direction.

    Using this as my guide in thinking that this pattern is probably not unique to me in any way as far as ADHD is concerned.  During the hyper focus initial stages of your relationship....all is good and a lot can be overlooked and forgiven at that time....but once you on the other side begin to where thin and the natural tendencies of most people to react in some predictable ways ie: the things I already mentioned like criticism and anger to start with....that's my guess when things began to change and not return for the better.  I'm adding this into what I have read so often about the relationship (or the person) changing dramatically after this time.  Without going to far down this train of thought.....I think a large part of this has to do with the very thing I'm talking about here not any of the other speculations or conclusions that I have read about the reasons why this is?  I'm saying this only as one major part not the entire reason.  This is an important thing to consider here and why I brought this up.  Without judgment of my own an in an effort to find solutions to help.....taking a hard look at your own input into these changes and noticing how you may have changed by simply increasing the number, frequency or intensity of the things I mentioned would certainly trigger a person going into full defensive posture kicking in and all that goes with it. 

    In the case of ADHD and denial.....this is going to take on a life of it's own and the person who you are with will most likely start behaving in some bizarre and seemingly unusual ways that you may not have seen before that time.  This is my take on the so called "change" you see in a person like this.  In reality....what has changed is only the list of defensive mechanisms that are now kicking into full swing that come from a lifelong learned pattern of denial and not knowing any better.

    I ran across a wonderful list and explanations of the ways people do this. It's about a complete as list as I have seen so I thought it would be helpful for anyone else who is experiencing a partner that is in denial and being able to spot the myriad of ways we all use to protect ourselves from painful thoughts and emotions.

    If you were wondering and asking yourself..." WTF is he/she doing?"  You should go to this link: https://emotionalcompetency.com/distortions.htm

  • Young Marriage suffering from ADHD and General Anxiety Disorder by: womanwithadd 9 years 1 month ago

    I have ADHD and General Anxiety Disorder. I have had to learn so much about these disorders just recently as no one properly educated me nor did I receive counseling for these when entering high school. Only now ten years after high school do I feel fully informed. Thank you to Melissa Orlov books as well as other materials I have studied. Unfortunately, I went off medication because I was doing so well in graduate school, so thought I did not need meds anymore for ADHD. Also went of the  meds for Anxiety because I had thought that with not taking the adderal it was not necessary anymore (supposed to take the edge off adderal). I did very well in graduate school getting a 3.9GPA at a very good school. But in reading information I likely did well because what I was doing was of huge interest to me. Previously in school I had to work much harder and in middle school for example I could not even play sports due to low GPA. The school would not alow me to. But once on meds I eventually got into National Honor Society in high school as well as in college. I had some good friends, a job, a boyfriend so eventually one day my mom and I thought it could be alright to go off the medication. Then things kind of turned and it has taken me now to see the issues that have risen. I was very irattible at times, would make difficulties out of nothing etc. So fast forward to current life. One year into my marriage I am headed for divorce at the age of 28 and my husband 33.

    I did not know ADHD iwas so largely also a behavioral disorder, nor do I think 90% of people know. If you have ADHD please read Melissa Orlov books. If I had only read these books to learn about how ADHD affects relationships before I met my husband. If I knew this I would have never went off medication. Also in learning more about GAD I realize that a big reason I probably was diagnosed with this is that my father died before me turning 4. Of course I was having issues with worrying and being up tight. Those who encounter this are more likely to be diagnosed, due to early trauma and blaming themselves for why that person went away (they do not understand the concept of death at that point in life). I should have never gone off medication, but the psychologist did not do a good job at explaining these diagnosis to me. Looking back at my marital problems it was a lot due to that I would constantly be in protection mode of myself. It did not help that as a child my mother had been through three divorces by the time I was 18 and never got counseling for me. I had a hard time opening up and relaxing even when things were going well in my marriage. I always have kept my friend commitments few and far as that is how I feel most comfortable, confiding in a few close friends. In my marriage and while dating my husband I always felt on edge as if something bad was about to happen. Of course there was a lot of jelousy as well, again to protect myself from danger and to feel that this was beneficial to me. My husband is a succesful man, who is kind, honest and loving. He would have done anything for me.

    Now he says I have turned his love to hate. He says he got a hateful wife. That why should he care about my feelings if I did not care about his. It breaks my heart, it really does. If only he had the means to sypathize. When summer was approaching I was switching positions at my school (not prefered), his father was visiting from Europe for a month (in whom I do not know well and does not speak english), my husband just got a new job an hour away from our home after three months of beign laid off and then the day hit I got a text saying my grandmother had cancer. I got irratable that my husband had not checked in on me after learning the health information and I got irate. I texted him that I was very upset, that I didn't want to do anything with him over the weekend etc., he called me a pathetic little girl and then I texted him to move out, of course not meaning it. Then he came home, packed up and moved to Orlando with his dad tagging along. I have never been so embarrased and of course him as well. Just a few days earlier we were enjoying dinner with his father, going shopping, being intimate etc. Although yes there was stress at times. But he had said mean words to me when I was upset that he wasn't checking in on me and that is when I took things to the next level. I was crying and begging him not to go. I brought them breakfast at the hotel they stayed in the night before and flowers. I did not mean this to happen. He is not one to express his own feelings well though and has bottled things up. Yes, he would tell me to stop things before and go for a walk etc. But as a person with ADHD I have intense emotion, so I guess I did not take him seriously as bad as that sounds. He never mentioned he would ever leave, ask for divorce and never suggested counseling in the past. He always told me he loved me, made me breakfast every morning and held the dog to wave goodbye to me as I left for work. If we got in confrontations I would say hurtful things but passively such as why don't you move out or divorce me (of course I cried after saying them and apologized and did not mean these things).

    I had just bought our home and we got a dog two months before separating. I wanted and still want everything with this man. I do not want to believe his words that he says to me now or that he has no love for me. If he could truely believe that my actiions were due to not being on medication and  due to me feeling vulnerable and nervous due to past experiences. I am a counselor myself so believe in counseling, unfortunately my husband will not go with me. So I go to my own counselor. He got his own counselor who is from Europe like him and she is supposedly saying I took advantage of his emotions because he needed a green card. This is far from the truth. My husband and I met in the U.S. while he was here on a work visa and at any point I was also aware he could continue on a work visa. But he is agreeing with anything that suggests I was trying to hurt him. In addition she has told him I have Borderline Personality Disorder, which is not true. I have my own set of healthcare professionals and they are astonished someone who does not even know me has made such accusations. So of course he believes her. How would I be allowed to volunteer for the court system and be a school counselor if I had borderline...not that it couldn't happen...however I have not been diagnosed with this and it is highly unlikely that I would be. People close to me also disagree. So America still needs good psychological professionals, not all are out there making lives better. He has filled for divorce and wants me to pay his court costs. He had the papers delivered to my school and now my principal knows, this is mortifying. 

    He came from a unified home with his mother and father. His mother died, but when he was in his 20's, so psychologically we had different experiences. He says me educating him on ADHD and GAD makes him even more angry. He says I have emotionally abused him and he will never forget it. That why after reading the book should he just accept this because we are married now. Although I briefly mentioned at dinner before marriage I had been on ADD medication in the past. It somehow just came up, but again I was not on medication anymore for years. He feels I was hiding things from him and that he had a right to know before marriage and that I took his rights away from him. He says I have effected his whole life and he doesn't even know if he ever wants to be married or have children after leaving me. He says why should he forgive me even if it is not my fault. I have read books the entire summer highlighting and sending them to him along with articles. I have begged for forgiveness. He says that he does not love me anymore and I am aa totally different person what when he met me. That I was being on my best behavior so he would marry me. I was in no need to get married to be really honest. I was 26 when I met him and 27 when we married. If we didn't get married I still and do still have time to settle down.  He says that I need to get things straight before being a mother. He says that medication doesn't help people and it does not change my cognitive state and ability to reason with others perspectives. My job is understanding people's perspectives! That people don't change and go back to what they did before because that is where they are comfortable. He says I will still get mad about everything in my head. He says it breaks his heart that he cannot recieve respect and kindness as he gives.

    However, he has not even been around me a single full day while I have been on medication the past four months. This is his decision as he has stated he never wants to see me again. That I cannot let people be in their value. He says I handle conflicts as a child. Non the less he is being very non-supportive and to me this seems very harmful in the choice of words. His family only hears his side and of course believes in his perspective. Although I was not on medication for four years before meeting him and thought I was doing fine. But the key here is intimate relationships. He is my first husband and the first man I have ever lived with. I was in a 5 1/2 year relationship before but with my college sweetheart and 2 years of that was long distance. My husband and I  also got married only after one year of dating, so it went very fast. Which can also be stressful especially for someone with ADD. Also too much change even when good can be stressful, he doesn't see that. He thinks if they are fun or good things how could they possibly bring discomfort. He is unable to see things from my perspective. He is an IT Manager for a very sought out company and when talking to others they feel he may see things very black and white. He is moving away from our Florida home and moving all the way to California. I feel like he is treating me like a criminal....do I really deserve this harsh punishment? Leaving me with this home I bought for us to take care of myself along with the bills. He tells me I am not in tune with reality. He says I am ignorant and that he doesn't understand why I feel he is obligated to love me even though I have not said he is. He has never treated me this way ever while we were together besides since we seperated and it is scary. I believe he is seeing this certain counselor as up to three times a week. I have showed up knocking on his apartment door once knowing he was home and he refuses to answer. I drive an hour and let him know I am in the area if he wants to get coffee...no reply. He replied once saying he was extreemly nervouse of even the thought of it. He will not return texts or calls and does not initiate any with me. He has told me to not contact his friends or family. He has had problems with erectile dysfuntion in the past and now blames it on me. Even though he openly discussed this with me weeks upon dating. He has told family and friends I gave him a "health condition". In truth when we had some arguments in the past due to him not addressing issues. On average we would have sex once a week, which is low for our age. However there had been times where we did not for three weeks and this was before marriage. Or he would try and it was not successful. 

    He also does not reply to emails in general unless they have to do with the divorce. It has only been three and a half months (almost 4) of separation so of course I still am putting fourth effort in saving our marriage. Although I feel highly hurt and crushed by his inability to empatsize. I have begged him to go to retreats and that I would pay for them..no response.  I told him I never wanted a divorce and I meant it. He has only put me down since me being back on medication (which is the first time being on medication in our relationship). My friends are very upset that he is not even trying to suport me in getting help. He has not comended me or anything. He has stated he cannot be my friend nor partner and that this is something I have to do on my own. That I have to "love myself" before anyone else can love me. I do love myself! I am proud of myself! I really do not understand him. I even took an anger management class although it was not really necessary. We focused on alot of budhist principles which I appriciated and am highly interested in.  I do not call people names, touch them, keep them hostage, nor yell or throw things so on and so fourth. When I say things they are passive or through text, not highly confrontational just not appropriate. He wants nothing to do with me. So now being 28 I have experienced almost a total of 4 divorces between my mother and myself. To say the least I never want to get married again. This seems like a horrible dream, I could have never seen him giving me such a cold sholder. He has seen me cry histarically throughout our relationship and so I do not get where he wouldn't be happy I am addressing things. I am very much a commitment person, but cannot handle the disappointment anymore. I don't want to look back on my life and think I gave it to a person just to see them throw my heart away. Sometimes the ones with the strongest wings fly solo...I guess :(

  • Am I wrong for leaving when H begins a tantrum or drama-fest? by: overwhelmedwife 9 years 1 month ago

    When H starts a tantrum or drama-fest, my solution is to grab my purse and leave.  If I don't leave, the anger towards me escalates, even though I'm often not the reason for his anger, but I'm "there" so I become the target.

     

    Yesterday, H had a series of annoying things go on:

     

    1)  had to drive 300 miles round trip to see his doctor.

     

    2)  The doctor runs a routine urine test to see if H's meds show up in his urine, and none showed up (this happens a lot for some odd reason).   This upsets him because he's afraid that the Dr won't renew his Rxs.

     

    3)  H had problems with his cell phone.  (Technology often frustrates H because gadgets are complicated and his "fat fingers" often don't press the right buttons.

    4) The pharmacy took a long time to fill his Rx's.

     

    5)  When he got home he misplaced his meds for awhile, then frantically looked and found them.  

     

    6) he was angry that one of our children hadn't answered a text.  

     

    7) finally, H became upset that I wasn't upset like he was over all of these "incidents".   (I've become numb to most of the things that annoy H....because they're constant.  I don't have the energy to get "all emotional" over every little thing that upsets him.)

     

    So, by about 8 pm, H began using me as a verbal punching bag.  So, I left.

     

    H is now complaining that I'm a terrible wife for not supporting  him and by "frustrating" him by leaving.  Yes, I guess it is frustrating when your Whipping Boy leaves.  

     

    It annoys me because he'll often start his whining by saying, "this isn't directed at you," and he'll start naming the 5-10 things that happened (separate from me) that annoyed him, but he can't do anything to THOSE people or frustrations, so he usually quickly transitions into something that he can yell at me about.  And, then he'll say that I'm being "passive aggressive" for leaving (blah blah blah).

    So, am I wrong to leave?  Believe me, nothing that I say calms him down when he's already upset.  

  • Groundhog Day...will he lose his job again? by: Anonymous (not verified) 9 years 1 month ago

    Groundhog Day...that is ADHD for me and my H. Once again, the man he works for is jealous of his charisma and popularity and his "boss" feels threatened. This has happened before in ALL types of jobs. I can see him losing his job once again. It's such a pattern that I won't be shocked. I know this time around that I must continue to move forward with the goals I have set in place for myself and draw on my new found strength. I can't be weak or pity myself since he will be doing all of that for himself. He already sounds mopey telling me the story and I caught him today looking blankly at the ceiling. I wonder how he feels, I think I know. What a sad thing. It's like a never ending screwed up day, everyday, all your life. And I am in the middle of it trying to enjoy my life as a positive, nurturer that hold down the FT job and benefits. Wow, yay me. Just call me Doctor, Counselor, Cheerleader, Provider, Maid. Can one person do it all and still maintain sanity when all the other person does is make a mess of their life? To be with someone 25 years and have them be frozen in amber like that fossilized mosquito is hard to watch. No progress, or not much. I need to keep my tank full for me while almost running on E for him. Argh! I can do it! I have had plenty of practice! I must keep my identity and sanity because my life is not like his, I just happen to be married to him. Gotta start now, looking for ways to brace myself for him getting let go...again. 

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