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  • How to fix it alone by: Regrets1nLife 3 months 3 weeks ago
  • Apparently Me Crying Was Done To Keep Everyone Up!? .. Beyond Frustrated by: BeyondConfused 3 months 3 weeks ago

    I am in a really bad mental state right now. I actually called my wedding off at the start of this year due to burn out from my partner's untreated ADHD. Or.. it was treated, he just opted to stop taking his medication and lied about it to me. He's hyper fixated on something going on with work. I've sat and listened to it ad nauseam for coming up on 3  years now. It's burning me out. And yes, I've been in counseling for this. It ended a few months back and now I feel like I'm back at square one because I feel like, I am working on myself and my partner just wants to remain "stuck" or doesn't want to put some of the harder work needed, into this. I am also currently seeking out a new therapist to help me unpack the things I recently discovered.

    I recently realized that I probably have ADHD as well and I am in the middle of a diagnosis. I've been learning more about ADHD and we've been working together and both read the ADHD effect on marriage book. Things seemed to be improving. Until things seemed to start to regress. 

    I understand that progress is not linear. I've been patient with that for the most part and making mention when I notice progress or thanking him, and making an effort to really work on my own things too and acknowledging when I am doing something that isn't helpful. Recently though, I watched my partner cancel a ton of hobbies and plans to better manage his work/home/life balance and was super grateful. By the end of the month, he had essentially filled up each thing he had canceled, with new events that are part of his interests. I don't go to these events, I have tried a few times and he just leaves me with the kids and ignores me the whole time and I end up feeling even worse. I don't do well with heat and have chronic pain issues which tend to flare up at these events. I'm now permanently exhausted and don't have the energy to do things. There was also the promise of giving me days where he'd watch the kids and I could just relax. He would then end up sleeping in late on those days so I would have to get up with them and then I'd get maybe half a day out of him watching the kids and I'd end up just sleeping because my motivation to do anything by that point was gone.

    I've got a broken kitchen cabinet, no trim on my baseboards from when we replaced flooring, a drawer that's broken, and just furniture sitting everywhere because he started helping me move it and then.. I think he got tired or something. I can't remember. One of the times we started moving things and he disappeared and I found him on his computer playing games. And when I asked if we could continue moving the dressers, he got angry and snapped at me. So I've been tripping over a half empty dresser for a good week now since something else keeps coming up. I haven't reached out to have someone else do these things because he keeps saying that he will. ..But he hasn't. At this point, I am absolutely reaching out to someone for help, but I just wanted to clarify why I haven't yet. Also, I don't do well with planning in advance, that's my struggle. So, when he says he will, I don't think to reach out to people and make a plan.

    I brought up a while back that I was getting frustrated with all the new events that he'd replaced the old ones with and with the absolute lack of "us" time together. For context, he goes to an event on a weekend and then comes home. The next 3 days, he's too tired to do anything else, and spends most of it sleeping. The next few days are spent getting ready for the next event. And I'm.. at home with our kids slowly burning out and feeling isolated. He takes some of the kids with him sometimes but will NOT take our youngest. She's the hardest one, she does not sleep, she has ADHD as well and she's just.. a lot. We have no family nearby to help out on challenging days and are too broke to afford a babysitter. I am the primary parent for her, and I am exhausted. So anyway, he gets to do what he wants and doesn't really seem to see the disconnect of I am at home essentially keeping everything in order as a way of supporting this. And then he gets home and he's talking to all the people he went to the events with, he's chatting with them about the next one, etc. And I get annoyed because I feel like we are growing apart while he is keeping in contact with these people that he just got to see and strengthening those connections at the detriment of ours. Like we will be sitting and watching a movie and he's texting everyone. Whereas I make an effort to keep my phone nearby but out of reach for me and not go onto it and actually engage with the show that we are watching.

    I tried bringing it up, expressing that I feel like we are losing our connection and asked how we could work together to try and find a way to work around this. I get a blank stare and "I don't know". I offer suggestions and get more blank stare. I got mad the one night because we were watching a show together and he was on his phone the whole time, not even paying attention. And then there was something he claimed he told me, but I didn't hear him or remember it so he was frustrated with me over that. It became this whole thing, but I pointed out how I feel like he hates me or doesn't even want to be with me and got this answer of "well that's how you feel, I can't control that." and then when I asked if he even wants to be with me, got told "I refuse to answer this"

    So.. long story short, I go upstairs and spend the next period of time in the bathroom just full on ugly crying and feeling like I am dying on the inside. He slept on the couch. During this time, I have noticed that his mood has drastically shifted and he's acting the same as he did back when he first stopped taking his meds and hit a hard depression. I've asked if something is bothering him, I've commented that he seems to be upset about something, and I get nothing.

    He had to go help a family member yesterday and I just so happened to notice the date on his pills when I went to take my vitamins. The bottle should have been empty/done months ago but there's still pills left ..He isn't taking his antidepressants again and I'll bet anything he isn't taking the ADHD meds either. 
    But he has told me daily that he's been taking this stuff. He hasn't. And now the mood thing makes sense.

    What really hurts is I stumbled across some messages he sent to one of his new friends from events. From the night when I was in the bathroom just sobbing and feeling alone and broken. His take on the whole thing is that I tell him I'm supportive of his hobbies but then yell at him for going to them and not spending enough time with me and our kids. Vs. "hey out of the entire month, you had something each weekend, I'm starting to feel lonely, could we keep a weekend for us or carve some time out together?"  And he then claims that I then asked him to PROVE that he doesn't hate me and he's in a lose/lose scenario. And that I was then upstairs angry crying loudly on purpose for everyone in the house to hear it. Vs.. I was devastated and frustrated because I've already been divorced once and I feel like I just found a new version of my ex husband and I'm in the 'things are falling apart" stage again and I feel both stupid and like absolute garbage. 

    I am frustrated, I am angry, I am hurt, and I am beyond depressed. And now I'm learning that my partner wants to leave me anyway, and I just I am SO MAD. I feel like I have sacrificed so much trying to work on things, and I got to a point where I was trying to be up front and verbalize concerns in a manner that I was taught in previous marriage counseling, and I feel like it's for nothing. Up until I found the messages, I was really hopeful that couples counseling would help us out. But now I'm thinking that he just wants to keep things the way they are and really doesn't care how it impacts me. 

    And now I'm here with no job (I stay at home with the kids), a mortgage, a bunch of half completed home projects, a scary amount of debt, very overweight, and I now have to try to figure out how to do this on  my own apparently. The biggest part I am stressing about is juggling daycare for 4 kids while also working since the jobs I've had in the past, generally have me working until after a daycare or day home is closed. 

    Ugh.. I am just so upset and frustrated right now. I feel like I keep ending up with people where I try to give it my all and try to work with them on issues instead of just leaving at the first sign of trouble. And now I'm wishing that I had opted to walk away earlier since it all seems to have been for nothing. 


     

  • My Attachment Style Retrospect by: J 3 months 3 weeks ago

    As I was thinking about my own attachment style, I was about to take yet another test but realized I didn't need to. I realized I can self access my own style(S) based on all my past relationships over the years. It occurred to me, this might be useful for others to see especially if they've only been married once and early in life. I thought it might be as interesting for someone else as it is for me. It goes like this:

    First high-school girlfriend ( the one and only ), short lived. The closeness and intimacy made me uncomfortable so I cut it off after only a short time. Avoidant 

    Second serious relationship in college. Madly IN love, very enmeshed feeling and insecure. Worried all the time about it failing and being rejected. Needed lots of reassurance and validation. She cut it off after only a short time. Anxious  ( very hurt )

    Third long term relationship lasting 3 years. Same as before. Madly IN Love. Felt very insecure and anxious much of the time. Worried a lot about how long it would last.  Felt very manipulated. She cheated on me for months before I found out. I was devastated. Full on RSD attack lasting for years. Anxious 

    Fourth serious relationship ( 1 year ) Very healthy and secure feelings from her but I couldn't let myself connect. Felt uncomfortable trusting and lost interest in sex. I broke it off because I was feeling pressured from her for sex. (Dismissive? )Avoidant 

    Went into a period of a lot of short term relationships based on sex. Some one night stands  and some for only a month or so. Most lasted only 4 months. That seemed like my limit. Ended with me feeling unfulfilled and wanting more that just sex. Avoidant.

    Fifth long term relationship ( almost 3 years )  I was feeling secure but not serious. Ended it when she started talking marriage and realizing I didn't even like her that much. Convenience relationship.  Avoidant 

    Sixth long term relationship was my first wife. Nothing but conflicts and fighting but great sex all the time. Fighting, sex, fighting,  sex.... This felt disturbing.  She left after a few years running off with another guy suddenly without warning. Marriage counselor we went to a few times said she was a Borderline.  I don't doubt it. She Hoovered me once and we had sex, but I had already met my future wife #2 so that went no where. Conflicted....push - pull. Co-dependent. 

    Seventh long term relationship ( 14 years ) Ex-Wife 2. Started out feeling very secure after 1 year off after my 1rst wife.  When she went emotionally distant and sex started drying up, I went back to feeling anxious again. This remained for the rest of our relationship. I'm pretty sure she had an affair at the end which my marriage counseling kept trying to get me to see but I was oblivious.  Anxious 

    It appears pretty obvious to me,  that my insecure attachment pattern is anxious-avoidant.  After years of therapy I'm feeling mostly secure but my tendency to default seems to be one or the other....either anxious or avoidant depending on who I'm with and the circumstances that happened just before each one. I seemed to flip and alternate from one to the other. I find this interesting because simply saying anxious- avoidant seems to imply it's a combination at the same time? 

    This also doesn't show the times feeling dependent but that isn't the predominant styles. 

    It also doesn't show that I definitely have a dismissive-avoident component as I've always felt a strong need to be self reliant and self sufficient but without all the symptoms. From childhood. It's obviously changed throughout the years.This was a good exercise to take as it tells me a lot about myself. I'm calling this progress.

     

    J

  • Who did what by: Swedish coast 3 months 3 weeks ago

    Sorry, this post has been entirely rewritten. I was looking for something, but didn't find it. I'm still just as confused about events as before and there are no new insights really. Why is it so hard to accept the casualties of an ADD divorce?

    Today I spoke to someone who has divorced a not diagnosed, but definitely eccentric partner of twenty years. She said it was now obvious all their choices as a couple had been based on her judgment only. With her, her partner had seemed collected and sensible. Without her, he made highly unconventional choices one after the other, seemingly unaware of risks he took, wrecking his economy fast and his relationship with their child. She didn't recognize him. She realized he wasn't who she'd thought at all.

    When people split up, is that universal? You suddenly don't know your former partner, since without you they are no longer recognizable.

    Who did what in this strange creature called a couple? A slow beast with two heads, none of which necessarily understood who they were attached to. Perhaps their own doings made them oversee what the other head was up to. It sure explains why I could be so surprised in the end.

     

  • It's Easy When You Know How... by: J 3 months 3 weeks ago

    This is a saying I say all the time at work when helping people who get stuck trying to do something. I just said it again to a co-worker who had messed up a job even though they did their best. I said," you can't know what you don't know....and there are hundreds, even thousands of little tricks in your bag you only learned from experience. These are things they don't teach in any classroom. Knowing how, comes from experience. 

    But doing due diligence ahead of time, preparing yourself for as many contingencies as you can, getting your ducks all lined up in a row and knowing exactly what you're going to, how your going to say it, and when is the best time to say all fall under the "how to" category. I had my all my vocabulary right on the tip of my tongue and no processing and trying to speak and do both was happening. And ....I was prepared for the worst in case that happened. 

    And knowing what kind of animal you're dealing with including the "do's and don'ts" of that particular  personality, makes for the best chance of having a successful, difficult conversation... coming out not only feeling like you were heard but getting to say everything you wanted to say and no one gets angry.

    That happened this morning. And everything I was concerned about was covered at the same time. ( I was kind of amazed )

    And when she said, "okay, we've covered this enough"....that was my cue to stop right there.

    And I have all those who've helped me here on this forum to thank. You've been my wing men and women during this entire process.

    Thank you.

     

    J

     

  • I'm sad when he gets frustrated with me by: suekhopf@gmail.com 3 months 3 weeks ago

    I have no idea what I've done. I'm the one with ADHD. My spouse gets frustrated with me and condescending with a tone. I can't do much of anything right from what I can tell. It makes me sad and teary. In the past, when I've tried to set boundaries and/or talk about it, he gets upset and asks me for examples. And he brushes them off as me being overly sensitive. So he's dismissive. He hurts my feelings. And he's certain it's me, not him. I feel like I'm being punished for something and I don't know what for. I'm out of ideas and options. So I just shut down. Which makes it worse.

     

  • Compassion by: J 3 months 3 weeks ago

    I wanted to share something that happened yesterday. I'm in the midst of doing a deep dive into the topics of: control, anxiety, fear, sex abuse, RSD, avoidant behavior and abuse in general including the cycle of abuse and how they all work together and are interrelated. I'm still in the middle of learning more about these things and finding I'm learning as much about myself as I am my SO.

    A minor event happened yesterday where my SO did something that hurt my feeling. She mocked me over something trivial.  But what's interesting now, more than ever, is my ability to recognized my feelings and emotions in real time. I didn't get angry, I only felt hurt and sadness but I did say something to her about it. I reacted yes, but in a very controlled manner. This, I felt was a successful exchange on my part telling her something that hurt me even if I may have not have said it perfectly.  And yes, I even chose to say something instead of over reacting. I guess that's responding not reacting? 

    The other part of this was her reaction which was anger that I pointed out something she did that hurt my feelings. But then, she told me I was angry which that's not at all what I was feeling. I simply replied " I'm not angry, I'm hurt, but I can see you're angry. Why are you angry?" I also told her "this is not a good way to start the day" and then said "what are you angry about? " Her reply was about everything on her mind except, what had just happened.  I told her I'm sorry she's feeling that way and hoped she had a good day at work. We both left for the day, and the day went without a problem and no hard feelings. 

    Anyway, this isn't about the incident. This is about how I'm feeling. After all my reading up on these things and making many new discoveries...I'm  feeling a great compassion for her and myself.

    I also realized exactly what hurt. She was putting me down which is exactly what you don't want from your trusted partner. It not building you up but putting you down. 

    There's so much more I can say here but there's also something else I've done right without knowing exactly why.

    Every day,  without fail,  when she's getting ready and commenting how fat she is, how ugly her hair is and generally speaking, putting her self down...

    I respond every day on how beautiful she is, how nice she looks and compliment her about her choice of clothes telling how well she's put together. 

    I do this every day without fail. And she's responded a number of times saying how good I am for her.

    My comments are genuine and sincere. I really mean them because it's exactly how I feel.

    In essence,  I'm building her up.

    This is also why it hurts. It's the opposite of what she did yesterday but the end result is not anger. It only makes me sad.

    But a big part of this also has to do with compassion.  The compassion I feel for her.

    I realized more than ever before, I know exactly what I'm feeling and why I'm feeling it. I've made great strides in this area I feel. It also gives me the ability to act on these feelings in a productive way as I did.

    I'm calling this a success....for me in particular.

    I also noticed and am realizing more....her inability to receive the love I'm offering her at times. As if, it has no affect on her. This is also telling.

    J

     

  • Trauma bonded by: Peacefull111 3 months 4 weeks ago

    I'm extremely upset that I allowed him to reel me back in for even a few hours. So I had not spoken to my adhd ex in almost 1 month. Last time I posted here was because I had broken things off with him because I had met another guy and told him to let go that I had someone else. He let go fully a few weeks then he started contacting me again and creating new numbers and emails saying he wanted me to send him back some gold that he had given me because he really needed the money. I was doing fine ignoring him until yesterday when I texted back asking him his Zelle information so I could just pay him for the gold so he could leave me alone. I really really regret engaging. And I don't know what I was thinking to even offer to send him money. I guess I felt sorry again. So I send him the money for the gold. And he just goes off at me in a horrible way he called me lesbian, racist comments, the b word, said he hated me. Just really hurtful things. Mocked my tattoos and my face etc.. needless to say I cried the rest of the night and fell asleep just in a bad emotional condition. 

    I've been studying codependency and also taking classes on toxic relationships but it's these slip ups that just hurt so bad. To always give him the benefit of the doubt. And then realize again I've enabled him. Yesterday I sent $600 in exchange for the gold. I just feel so dumb and used. I'm trying to get out of this cycle of abuse but it's been really hard especially with someone who does not leave me alone and finds me weak one day and takes full advantage. I believe it's time I change my phone number now and really take the next step to create more distance. Emotionally I can't take this anymore. I just wish to move on with my life. 

  • Frustrated and unhappy by: Starlight123 3 months 4 weeks ago

    Hi everyone. I'm getting more and more unhappy in my marriage. My husband has ADHD and bad RSD. The RSD is causing regular problems in our relationship. I understand how ADHD and the RSD affect him and that it's part of it but I'm finding it more and more difficult to handle. At times he is blatantly rude and horrible. 
     

    He drinks regularly which doesn't help as it affects his moods. He regularly takes offence at very normal things I do which would not affect anyone else. If I treated him the way he does me he would not put up with it. He apologised sometimes and I accept the apology but it's having a big impact and I now enjoy spending time alone more than spending time with him. He talks and talks and it's all about how he feels, what's he's been doing, what he wants to do, what his current ailments are etc. and doesn't really show a lot of interest in my feelings. We have good times,  don't get me wrong but the ADHD / RSD makes him aggressive and rude and he gives me the silent treatment constantly for days on end. I'm walking on eggshells trying not to say the wrong thing. He tells me daily he loves and how lucky he is. But we seem to be wanting to do different social things. He likes to drink/watch tv and I like to go out walking, reading, shopping and don't want to sit in a pub all day.  What can I do to try and improve things? He likes me to be with him all the time but I'm finding this difficult as I need a break. 

  • Forgiveness by: Swedish coast 3 months 4 weeks ago

    Have any of you non-ADHD partners who've been badly hurt by ADHD, reached a point of forgiveness?

    I would want to close this crater of pain when the first year of divorce is coming round. It's not so much about him or overseeing with his actions. Mostly, I want to be different.

    It isn't over. I had a major adrenalin rush as late as a week ago because of my ex husband's long-standing, as it turned out, mistake concerning the children. His symptoms and lack of communication are still tugging at my nerves as we try to coparent via texts. He thinks he's friendly and has no idea of what he's done to me, he ignores evidence of it. I'm hurt, stressed out, have deception trauma according to the therapist.

    Still, I want to find forgiveness and peace. I want to be able to show up for the children where my ex is without a migraine stopping me. I would like to make our family - because we are still a family - something I don't regret. I want to comfort old friends and extended family and tell them the divorce was necessary, but now we've put it behind us and work so well together for the children. I want to be grateful for my life, not shattered and accusing. As yet, I'm not close to this goal. I am a mess.

    It's not in my personality to keep emotions locked up. Neither am I good at pretending things are different than they are. So forgiveness and acceptance must be true.

    When there is no trust anymore, and you are completely estranged from your former love, how do you still write new chapters about love and trust? How do you show your children a decent and mature way to handle a crisis? How do you forgive, even if you don't see any excuse for what's been done to you?

    What did you do? 

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